The only thing that matters is data. Again, you’ve not provided any. You’ve made claims about what others believe but offered nothing in the way of supporting evidence.
I don’t particularly care where individuals stand in regards to the topic. Posters with very different points of views have been able to discuss the issue amicably. You’ve chosen not to participate in a civil manner. Passive aggressive digs only hurt the conversation.
Unfortunately, by now I’m accustomed to being attacked for making simple statements of fact - even statements that can’t be disputed, like stating that it is indisputable that official statistics exist. We live in an age where people are either paid, or politically motivated, to anonymously make false statements about what other people say and hurl insults with the purpose of confusing others about the facts, or distracting them from the facts.
I’m not going to directly respond to the latest ad hominem attack on me, above, other than to thank the forum members who pointed out that I didn’t make any statements suggesting that the official figures are correct or incorrect, and that falsely accusing other members of making such statements for a nefarious purpose, or through dishonest means, is not appropriate and not what this forum, or this thread, are about.
No one is trolling except some weirdo fake experts and reporters, spewing some nonsense on mainstream media each and every single day for the last 6 months…
Are you saying that he and other “medical experts” may become unreliable some day, all of a sudden ?!
Good for you my friend, keep following him… as long as he is still reliable :laughing:
Thunderay: it is misleading to assert that the globalresearch website claims Dr. Fauci is currently saying that Covid-19 has a death rate similar to the death rate of influenza. The website uses a statement Dr. Fauci made in March about the data they had at that early stage of its spread in North America — and we now know the death rate is many times higher than that. In fact, shortly after that statement was made and consistently thereafter, Dr. Fauci made very different statements about the death rate from Covid-19, based on the data that was increasingly collected in North America as cases increased there.
The nasal swab is the best alternative, because it gives fewer false negatives than other methods. Most false positives are the result of errors in the lab, and other problems with how the results are handled or analyzed, not the result of flaws in the test.
One might reasonably ask why you are spinning old data to minimize the danger of the virus at the current time? Why are you discouraging people from taking the most effective type of test for Covid-19, according to the experts?
If you’re infected and you don’t wear a mask just because it doesn’t make you happy, and you happen to infect me or other people, besides putting many lives at risk (under a medical perspective), you are committing the crime of public propagation of disease (under a legal perspective).
So… happinness and wearing a mask is probably not the best correlation to do here! Actually, wearing a mask doesn’t make me happy, but will probably make me safer (under a scientific perspective).
Of course, if you choose not to wear a mask due to - and I really mean it - STUPID, biased and unfounded beliefs you are just doing it under political perspective.
And, unfortunately, this is the one by which many people in many countries…seem to prefer to be guided! And therefore they will be - again - STUPIDLY putting at risk other peoples lives, the so-called “reopening” and many other things in society, some of which can be framed under an economical perspective.
Thanks Photon Master After all we still are in a flashlight forum
About a good headlamp recommendation, I may not be the best person to do that :zipper_mouth_face: I only have 2 so far, so I don’t have much experince with headlamps. Maybe the one from Sofirn can be a good choice, under a budget perspective!
However, if you have some more money to spend, eventually other brands can suit your needs in terms of the required specs
This would be great news if no second wave occurs. i watch the daily reporting of 215 countries and other entities for new cases and deaths reported. It seems hard to believe that all these entities would be using the same unreliable test? Could this be true and all the daily reports are in error? It may not be as deadly as it was in March, but the daily death rate is nearly the same at about 5k per day. Are these deaths being falsely reported from around the world?
It’s possible to survive a single-lung pneumonia, but double pneumonia is mostly fatal. The covid-19 seems to be a more deadly version of influenza—what is it that you propose people to do in this situation?
The “Bolt Report” out of Australia made some good observations this past week. He points out graphed data showing that the death numbers aren’t rising in conjunction with this spike in detected Covid cases. He also interviews a doctor from a hospital. Not long, worth watching:
I noticed, btw, that no one seems to have picked up on the statement Thunderay linked to:
Pfizer is a large pharma company and I’m sure they stay on top of the information and data on illnesses. Anyone who spent 16 years as their chief science officer would know a thing or two, don’t you suppose?
Excellent points! I wear a mask for those reasons but sometimes I just feel like I don’t have the right to tell other people what to do…
Yeah I’m pumped to get into warm lights! The little woman was complaining the other night when we were walking because I was carrying one of my many 6500K lights. Looking forward to having a 2K for walks outside. Of course then I’ll be buying every other color temp! Expensive hobby (: but so fun
The information coming from Dr. Yeadon about the rate of false positive Covid-19 tests would be very interesting, if Yeadon was talking about something happening in the real world, and if he didn’t misrepresent the figures he took from the source of his false beliefs, and if the source of his false beliefs wasn’t also wrong. However, Yeadon wasn’t talking about anything happening in the real world, and he did misrepresent the figures coming from an Oxford Professor of Medicine, and the professor (the source of Yeadon’s misunderstanding) was also very wrong in not clarifying that his remarks on this subject don’t apply to what is actually happening in the real world.
Summary: The Oxford professor claimed that the false positive rate in the UK was as high as 50. Not almost 100. Yeadon took that statement and exaggerated what the professor said, claiming the false positive rate is 90%. Unfortunately, both the professor and Yeadon were not talking about anything that is really happening, either in the UK or the US.
If the prevalence of the virus in the group being tested is as low as is assumed by the professor (0.11), and subsequently assumed by Yeadon in repeating the professor’s claim, of course the false positive rate will be very high. That’s the way statistics work. However, the 0.11 assumption of prevalence behind the professor’s conclusion was the prevalence of the virus in the entire UK population. But that is not the group being tested. The group being tested in reality is comprised almost entirely of people with symptoms - so the prevalence of the virus in the group being tested is actually much higher, and the false positive rate is actually very low.
We also have other evidence confirming that the false positive test rate is very low. For example, the number of positive tests as a percentage of the whole is growing. And the numbers are not spiking uniformly across the entire country, in the UK or the USA. So the increases in positive tests are not being caused by error. Unfortunately, publication and widespread promoting of false and/or misleading information about testing, like Yeadon’s nonsense, will only result in more distrust of testing, and the medical and scientific community, and that will only make things worse for all of us.
As for Yeadon’s comments about he virus being “over,” that is contrary to the information coming from the vast majority of health experts, epidemiologists, and others with expertise in the relevant fields. I would ask Dr. Yeadon: if the virus is over, why are more people dying of the virus in quite a few states in the USA? Why have the numbers gone up in several European countries? Why are we still dealing with a daily confirmed death rate from the virus of around 1,000, and often over 1,000, even in the past few weeks?