【convoy】Sample L6 with GT 12V 4A 90CRI LED

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id30209 wrote:

Just received S21B W2.1  I’m impressed!!


PS S2+ clips fits erfect on S21 family…0

So that’s the new Convoy’s grey on the S21B ? A different shade of grey compared to S2+‘s.
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Hey, sorry for my lack of knowledge Facepalm , what is W2.1 ? Is it another osram emitter?

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BLF-L wrote:
So that's the new Convoy's grey on the S21B ? A different shade of grey compared to S2+'s. That looks gorgeous Thumbs Up . . Hey, sorry for my lack of knowledge Facepalm , what is W2.1 ? Is it another osram emitter?

Emitter is CULPM1.TG, Osram Boost or on short W2.1

It’s a slang but much easier to gollow numerous emitters.

”New” grey is i think the same as previois models, S2 and S2+ are similar to S21B.

On the other hand S21A looks bluish to me. But i don’t mind, actually i like it. It remind me of old times and Surefire HA mismatch.

 

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iRattle wrote:
Hello Simon. Please advise if you are planing to update L6 or L21A using SBT90 diode and what price will be for both? I think many people will buy L6 with SBT90 for reasonable price 70-80 USD or L21A for 60-65 USD.

I think someone already pointed out how expensive SBT90 is, so basically you could get 2 hosts for the price of 1 LED.

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i’m ready to use 4×18A or 3×21700 host to install SBT90.2

I want one.

That’s going to be the first Convoy to break the $99.99 barrier Party

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caramba wrote:
iRattle wrote:
Hello Simon. Please advise if you are planing to update L6 or L21A using SBT90 diode and what price will be for both? I think many people will buy L6 with SBT90 for reasonable price 70-80 USD or L21A for 60-65 USD.

I think someone already pointed out how expensive SBT90 is, so basically you could get 2 hosts for the price of 1 LED.

Unloco wrote:
Simon Mao wrote:
i’m ready to use 4×18A or 3×21700 host to install SBT90.2

I want one.

That’s going to be the first Convoy to break the $99.99 barrier Party

Convoy L21A cost is 31 USD, SBT 90.2 around 35USD in that case cost can be 75-80.

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Most likely need R&D for new driver, and a new reflector… see what happens I guess

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Wait for sec, if you look at sbt90.2 market segment which they are already out, there are as following:
Astrolux FTO3S, MF05S
Noctigen K1
Amutorch
Night?..
Etc

They are pretty good but with their own flaw. E.g, MF05 too massive and expensive, but it will perform absolutely. Other also perform accordingly but you will find decent flaw, it depend.

Now,I do see flashlight manufacture doing hard as they could to implement these beast sbt90.2, what I’m talking about here is, what sort of improvement, update, new feature, innovation, to the upcoming Convoy 3×21 sbt90.2? My expectation was: extra capacity and power and that ok. But that will result increase in mass and shape, these also took affect in the decision of consumer. Unless, there is “WOW” factor, that will be different story. So…it is intesting.

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id30209 wrote:

Later i’ll post beamshots.


We all waiting beamshots with big interest.
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30cm from the wall,
left S21A 351D 5000K 4mode 6000mA driver on 3%

right S21B W2.1 12mode 6000mA driver on 1%


2.5m from the wall

left S21A on 30%
right S21B on 20%


5m from the unfinished bathroom 

S21B on 20%



and S21A on 30%

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Thanks.
Any change for beamshots on field?
S21A with Samsung is custom order I guess?

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30cm from the wall,
left S21A 351D 5000K 4mode 6000mA driver on 3%

right S21B W2.1 12mode 6000mA driver on 1%

Is it a high CRI LH351D?

Tint looks good in the LH351D, but green in the WF 2mm². Did you set white balance to auto id30209? 

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Convoy L2 quick question: what diameter is its driver boot? I think I have read in some other thread that it is slightly larger than ∅20mm, is it? It should fit a ∅22mm like this one with a little bit of filing. Now that the L21A uses a ∅22mm driver boot, it would be a good idea to standardize. 

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I have a 21mm driver in my L2, even though it is 20mm in the description. 21mm fits perfectly, with no gaps left at the edges, so 22mm won’t go in without modification.

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I have a 21mm driver in my L2, even though it is 20mm in the description. 21mm fits perfectly, with no gaps left at the edges, …

Thanks for replying Chatika vas Paus. The driver is sure to fit as I presumed, after all it fits in a ∅17mm board and so there's plenty of leftover board to file:

 

 

I still have a question, though. Is the L2 stock equipped with a reverse switch? I would love to see the switch assembly. I have some Omten PBS101C400sPBS1288Bs and other oddballs at home but just in case.

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Standard forward switch on 16mm board by default.

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Chatika vas Paus wrote:
Standard forward switch on 16mm board by default.

Another oddballity.

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Barkuti wrote:

Is it a high CRI LH351D?

Tint looks good in the LH351D, but green in the WF 2mm². Did you set white balance to auto id30209? 

 

Yes, hi cri 351D.

Iphone 8 set to cold settings. Actually tint on Samsung isn’t that rosy at all and Osram isn’t that much green.

 

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id30209 wrote:
…Yes, hi cri 351D.

Iphone 8 set to cold settings. Actually tint on Samsung isn’t that rosy at all and Osram isn’t that much green.

Phone camera is shait Sad

Well, that's a bit odd. Crapple has quality hardware, and so the only reason for that to happen is the software.

As an oddball fellow myself I care a lot about the software. Freedom is paramount for me, and so I get Android smartphones which as they arrive at home are bootloader unlocked and customized with some rooted AOSP rom. I couldn't care less about any stock device software, generally raping any unwanted stuff on the way and one of these is the camera application which quickly gets replaced with Open Camera…

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I’d say it was my bad choice of settings rather than crapy software. I thought guys just want to see a beam size.

The other problem is that i have no interest in photography so much. Seeing my kids what they are doing with their phones makes me wanna go full wired again.

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Thanks for the beamshots id30209

Are the reflectors the same size between the A and B model? Any lux readings?

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They are the same and interchangable. Only difference is OP vs SMO.

No lux readings whatsoever, don’t have any meassuring equipment.

The only way i can tell how good throw is, is to light up building across, certain lady bedroom and see details in it.

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id30209 wrote:

They are the same and interchangable. Only difference is OP vs SMO.

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The White Flat above seems to be a CULPM1.TG (4040 2mm²), doesn't it?

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… Seeing my kids what they are doing with their phones makes me wanna go full wired again.

Addiction problems maybe?

As a whole I've had to deal with addictions pretty seriously in this lifetime, and now that I can discern between good an evil / right and wrong, it now is a worrying thing for me to see how much people is stuck in a horrible level of unawareness/unconsciousness.

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Hello Simon,

I did look at the new Convoy Z1 zoomable flashlight, and it looks very appealing. The only thing which holds me back from it, that it is not available with high CRI emitter, just with a “standard”, between 65-70 CRI SST40. Could you offer Z1 with LH351D as well? LH351D has a nice, almost round light emitter surface, because of the dome of the emitter as well, so it should definitely worth it. (Not as big output as SST-40, but should handle 5A current without problems.)

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Barkuti wrote:

The White Flat above seems to be a CULPM1.TG (4040 2mm²), doesn't it?



Yes, you are right.

 

 

@ Simon

Can you make bigger lighted switch for high output hosts like S21B, M21C etc?

The one in S21A (lighted as on S2+, C8...) is different than on S21B (non lighted).

Also, threads are different on A and B...

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adam7027 wrote:
Hello Simon,

I did look at the new Convoy Z1 zoomable flashlight, and it looks very appealing. The only thing which holds me back from it, that it is not available with high CRI emitter, just with a “standard”, between 65-70 CRI SST40. Could you offer Z1 with LH351D as well? LH351D has a nice, almost round light emitter surface, because of the dome of the emitter as well, so it should definitely worth it. (Not as big output as SST-40, but should handle 5A current without problems.)

i can use adapters to apply 17mm 5A driver

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id30209 wrote:

Barkuti wrote:

The White Flat above seems to be a CULPM1.TG (4040 2mm²), doesn’t it?




Yes, you are right.


 


 


@ Simon


Can you make bigger lighted switch for high output hosts like S21B, M21C etc?


The one in S21A (lighted as on S2+, C8…) is different than on S21B (non lighted).



Also, threads are different on A and B…


ok ,i will produce 20mm lighted switches

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id30209 wrote:

Also, threads are different on A and B…


Have you seen this thread?

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Chatika vas Paus wrote:
 Have you seen "this thread":http://budgetlightforum.com/node/74485?[/quote]

 


Yeap but those are S2+ topics. This is bigger brother in question.

I was hoping to mix and match S21 family but not likely. Sad

 

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I was thinking maybe square threads are used on hosts which use pill and trapezoid where integrated shelf is instead of pill...(?)

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