AliExpress… is a mess

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AliExpress… is a mess

Here is a longer than strictly required video I captured with my smartphone, though I'd somehow submit its link to the AliExpress staff:

 

 

So, is any of you experiencing this issue? Right now I cannot search in AliExpress with my smartphone, at least not unless I use the application for such thing (and that's not gonna happen).

AliExpress site verifies correctly in my Windows 10 laptop. 

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It works on an iPad, just if you were wondering. haven’t tried this on Android yet.

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Try the option: open in desktopsite in chrome on android

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Yokiamy wrote:
Try the option: open in desktopsite in chrome on android

My Chrome browser does not need such a thing. Take a careful look and you will see it just opens desktop sites; this is because I enforce desktop user agent on it. This is done by editing data/local/chrome-command-line file and setting the desired user agent in it (this basically is all which was required on earlier Android versions, but at least on 8.x and up on a first run it requires executing a few shell commands). This is the long story, but in practice it can be done easier with some specific application like User Agent for Google Chrome. Root required, of course.

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AliExpress scares the willies out of me. Beyond that the site is full of nags, new tabs are unnecessarily opened clicking links, a Clippy-like help chat I never need must constantly be clicked closed, there’s annoying flashy blinky stuff that drives me bananas. But because I missed them at Liion Wholesale, where they’ve been out of stock for some time, I ordered 8 button top Vapcell INR14500 H10 1000mAh 10A cells at a terrible price. When they arrive some time in 2028, I will edit my profile with false information and delete my account.

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I think I am going to sneak in the AliExpress customer service and file a general complaint. I am going to be raw with them, respectful but rough. Frankly speaking, their site is full of shite… Mmm 0K, that's a bit hard, but you get the idea.

I will take some time to write it up, so I have it precooked before sneaking in. Things which are going to be laid on the table are:

  1. The search engine. Starting with the default listing filter, “best match”, which honestly, should be renamed to “worst match”. One of the main problems with the search engine is that it makes stupid presumptions, one of the worst is presuming that the given search terms in the search box can be found inside other terms, which is terribly foul. If you try to find a "2W zener diode", for example, you'll have the search listing completely spammed with "1/2W" parts. This is just an example more or less recently I had to deal with, but it happens with LOTS of other stuff. Also, the lack of search operators is grievous (nothing works better than a search engine with logic operators, and free from any sort of syntax correction AI crap, imho).

If any of you has something to suggest and I resound with it, it'll go in.

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There are plenty of complaints about AE in this thread:

http://budgetlightforum.com/node/73396

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I really doubt that AliExpress is actually going to fix their site, however.

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I wouldn’t be surprised if this bug were a “feature.” So many sites are provably and intentionally, some even openly effing up their search results. The incentive is to consume as much of your time as possible. You won’t stop looking until you get what you know you need. So they shove as much unrelated shit in front of you as they think they can get away with. Grocery stores do this, too. Their only limitation is that physical space costs money and there’s only so much of it. Online, the only limit is in your mind.

They won’t stop this because anyone complains. You’d be mistaken if you thought they give any kind of a shit what anyone thinks. If it makes more money, you bet they’ll keep it up.

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Same problem here on desktop firefox.

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mine goes with :

500 Internal Server Error

The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
Powered by Tengine/Aserver

after slide to verify successed.

Im using pop os on firefox.

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Robin Dobbie wrote:

They won't stop this because anyone complains. You'd be mistaken if you thought they give any kind of a shit what anyone thinks. If it makes more money, you bet they'll keep it up.

Do you really believe this? Flat Stare 

Fact is, I'm not sure their customer support team is straight willing to submit true customer complaints to whoever is in charge of the decisions. Maybe too much foul fears. Just look at how hard it can be to reach customer service in the first place (you need to input a bunch of smart lies to their Eva bot). Which is sad, very sad. 

 

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I just made some purchases at AliExpess a couple hours ago, in fear and trembling. Originally, I ordered 4 items from 4 different sellers that all accepted PayPal, but the PayPal button was greyed out when I attempted to purchase them all at once. So I stupidly tried my credit card, and the fraud outfit tied to my bank flagged it and denied each purchase attempt. I had to purchase each of the items separately with PayPal, then carefully cancel the original order one item at a time, and then let the fraud agency know the purchase attempt was legit. Nerve wracking. Now I just have to wait two months before I see this stuff. But at least I got a great price on KeepPower IMR18650 3500mAh 10A cells, best I have see anywhere by a few dollars.

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Now that nocturne relived the thread, I went back to re-check the site. It is not asking me to “verify” like the other day, although this doesn't means the problem is fixed.

As another example of AE problems, take a look at the following 26700 LiFePO4 cells advertisement:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001123702112.html

These are the same as the Lii-40E ones recently reviewed by Henrik, if only in their OEM wrap. If you pay some attention you will notice that the price for a 4-piece pack is wrong, corresponding to a 3-pack instead. I told this to the seller months ago by now (past July 7th, in fact) and, along with some other related seller advertisements, the error is still there! Facepalm 

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Just to add another helpful tip: while I have been shopping on Aliexpress for many years, I have never entered any of my personal cards on there. I trust Aliexpress (not 1¢ was taken fraudulently from me in all the years). But I wouldn’t trust them with my American Express.

hence, I encourage everyone to use prepaid cards in your locality, like:

https://www.bluebird.com/
https://usa.visa.com/pay-with-visa/cards/prepaid-cards.html

The Revolut disposable cards also work fine on AE.

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Barkuti wrote:

Now that nocturne relived the thread, I went back to re-check the site. It is not asking me to “verify” like the other day, although this doesn’t means the problem is fixed.


As another example of AE problems, take a look at the following 26700 LiFePO4 cells advertisement:


https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001123702112.html


These are the same as the Lii-40E ones recently reviewed by Henrik, if only in their OEM wrap. If you pay some attention you will notice that the price for a 4-piece pack is wrong, corresponding to a 3-pack instead. I told this to the seller months ago by now (past July 7th, in fact) and, along with some other related seller advertisements, the error is still there! Facepalm 

All I can say is… those are really cool cells. Nice to see LiFePO4 getting some love.



2A wrote:
hence, I encourage everyone to use prepaid cards in your locality, like:

https://www.bluebird.com/
https://usa.visa.com/pay-with-visa/cards/prepaid-cards.html

The Revolut disposable cards also work fine on AE.

Really good idea. Luckily, my bank is OCD with security and questionable purchases, and I just don’t have much money to be stolen, my monthly allotment is generally gone to bills within a week of getting paid. I checked to make certain, and AliExpess did not record my card number for future purchases. But it is possible the sellers saw my numbers, but I hope cancelling the orders during the fraud freeze warning I got was sufficient to remove any possible curiosity. If not, my bank sends a new card, cancelling the old one, about once a year.

But that does leave a window for fraud. I have been meaning to set up using virtual card numbers for one time use. It is really just educating myself how to generate them.

Anyway, I won’t do that again. It is PayPal or no purchase.

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Using a 1-time virtual credit card is probably one of the safest ways to go. Set it for the purchase amount with an expiration date of a day or 2 in the future and even if someone hacks into the site the card number is of no value to them. Also prevents in-house employees from using the card for personal use.

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Just to add: AE will have some part of your financial information, regardless of whether you “save” the card in your profile or not. In case of fraud, charge back, refund or the seller simply doesn’t ship (happens more frequently now) – AliExpress needs to send the money back to your account. More specifically, Antgroup will do this for you (all the “tiny” payments we all have been doing made them 200B $US big).

I have never seen any type of fraud with credit cards with Ant financial, so far. They seem “safe”, but you never know. Data breaches can happen in any country.