The Vapcell H10 has been restocked at Liionwholesale.
Ordered several a few days ago :+1:
Out of curiosity, I asked when it will be available on Ali
“hello, maybe at the end of next month”
How are currently the Sofirn 14500?They was in review 2 yar ago
Thanks
Sort of off-topic for this message thread.
I’ve bought a number of Sofirn flashlights with batteries included (usually I take the battery option since batteries cannot be shipped to our country as is, and has to be included with a flashlight)…
I’ve had quite a number of Sofirn batteries now, and I generally do capacity test and compare them (do capacity test, measure AC IR with YR1030 resistance tester, and measure their weight with a digital scale). I hadn’t really done measuring of dimensions (diameter/height) — all some are visually different.
In my limited experience, Sofirn uses different batteries under the wrapper. I’ve detected at least 3 different types of Sofirn “4000mAh” 21700, at least 4 different types of Sofirn “5000/5500mAh” 26650 and maybe 3 types of Sofirn “3000mAh” 18650s. Sofirn labels their 14500 “900mAh”, I haven’t compared Sofirn 14500s much, but I’ve noted they come in slightly different “sizes”, some Sofirn 900mAh 14500 are a bit shorter, some are a bit taller, and while usually the capacity test range from 800-900+ mAh (using MC3000 to do capacity test). So it’s likely a bit difficult to say which “Sofirn 14500” one will be getting, as it changes over time…
They were supposed to be available at the end of June, and they are still not available. Anyone know when it will be available for sale?
Here are my test results:
Discharge capacity tested on a Xtar Dragon VP4 Plus:
Vapcell 1000mah gold – 993, 995 mah
Vapcell H10 1000mah purple – 962, 961, 943, 962 mah
Vapcell L10 1050mah purple – 1063, 1063 mah
Orbtronic 1000mah protected – 990, 972, 967 mah
Shockli Black 1000mah button top – 957, 921, 947, 950 mah
Shockli Black 1000mah flat top – 889 mah
Shockli Orange 1050mah flat top - 991, 989, 1004, 963
Lumen on direct drive (highest output) tested with Texas Ace Lumen Sphere calibrated with Maukka lights:
GT Micro XP-L HI 4000K
(flat top no contact) Sanyo UR14500P 840mAh Battery
(flat top no contact) Vapcell 1000mah gold
964 lumens –14500 KeepPower 840mAh Sanyo UR14500P Protected Button Top
951 lumens – EVVA Protected Button Top 800mah
974 lumens – Orbtronic 1000mah protected button top
1194 lumens – Windyfire 600mah button top
1195 lumens – Shockli Black 1000mah button top
1155 lumens – Shockli Black 1000mah flat top
1247 lumens – Vapcell H10 1000mah button top purple
948 lumens – Vapcell L10 1050mah flat top purple
1247 lumens - Shockli Orange 1050mah flat top
Kronos X5
903 lumens – Sanyo UR14500P 840mAh Battery
1110 lumens – Windyfire 600mah button top
1104 lumens – Shockli Black 1000mah button top
1086 lumens – Shockli Black 1000mah flat top
842 lumens – Orbtronic 1000mah protected button top
931 lumens – Vapcell 1000mah gold
1180 lumens – Vapcell H10 1000mah button top
930 lumens – Vapcell L10 1050mah flat top
1200 lumens - Shockli Orange 1050mah
The Shockli Orange 1050mah output is about identical to the monster cell Vapcell H10. It is both a high drain and high capacity cell, which is just incredible! It even managed to beat the Vapcell H10 slightly in average capacity, though this might just be that I got lucky on the cell lottery, since HKJ’s comparator seems to show both being the same cell, but who knows. Hoping to see some flashlights that can take advantage of the high current.
The Vapcell L10 is the highest capacity 14500 in existence. Output is equal to the previous Vapcell 1000mah gold.
The former 14500 king Shockli 1000mah is still an excellent high current and high capacity cell and besides these two flashlights, you won’t see any output difference vs the Shockli Orange or Vapcell H10.
Edit: The Shockli Orange 1050mah is a flat top that works in the GT Micro. The Vapcell H10 flat top does not work in the GT Micro. So not sure if they really are the same cell.
Great overview! Thanks for sharing.
Great overview. The Vappies also have a good price.
Thanks for the results SKV89!
Seems like the Vapcell and Shockli are really shoulder to shoulder and are the definite 14500 top cells so far 
However, while the Vapcell H10 have already returned to the market, I don’t see the Shockli yet :zipper_mouth_face:
Should be available soon. I was asking Shockli-Simon to sell me some since it was originally tested by HKJ. Waited half a year and they finally have them available. Have you checked Aliexpress?
Yup, just checkef again and they don’t have it.
I am served now, but wouldn’t mind grabing some of these !
Will keep on checking their AE store!
Btw, the Shockli Orange 1050mah is a flat top that works in the GT Micro. The Vapcell H10 flat top does not work in the GT Micro. So not sure if they really are the same cell.
I’d be absolutely shocked if they weren’t the same cell. Everything looks the identical. It could be something as minor as a different insulating gasket and/or thinner wrapper that makes the difference.
I’ve had this before with Windyfire Red 14500 FTs. Two of the four I bought at the same time would work in an Eagletac D25a, two would not. Microns different in protrusion of the positive contact was make or break. Crimping variation easily could account for the difference I measured in that case.
4 of my Shockli 1050 flat tops worked in the GT Micro and both the Vapcell H10 flat tops didn’t. But it could simply be due to batch to batch variation. The chances of them being the same cell is high.
I think there’s also variation between GT Micro’s, I got cool-white & neutral-white GT Micro.
I don’t have these Shockli 1050mAh and Vapcell H10 flat-tops, but I tried some other flat-top 14500 batteries on the GT Micro.
What’s surprising is that some flat-tops work on one GT Micro, but doesn’t work (not making proper contact) with the other GT Micro…
Got flat top Vapcell Gold from Nov 2018 and flat top H10 from Neals included with GT Micro copper recently delivered. Both work in original GT Micro and the copper.
Good news guys. These batteries are available now and are slightly cheaper than the Vapcell H10. Unfortunately, only a flat top.
Shockli 14500 1050mAh
Fortunately their flat tops protrude a bit more than the H10. 4 of my Shockli Orange 1050 flat tops works in the GT Micro and both the Vapcell H10 flat tops didn’t.
Specs: 49.1mm Length
Ali link specs: 50mm Length
Can anyone verify which is correct?
Thx
Just pulled the trigger on 4 of these 
