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The intl-outdoor website indicates 2000K is with R9050 for E21A. I don’t remember if anybody has done the actual measurement.

Maukka did it for Clemence/Virence’s E21A batches.
At lower currents up to 700mA Clemence’s 2000K batch is R9080
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When will we start seeing Anduril 2 on these? Not in a hurry or anything, but figured I wait until the 2 comes out and not spend extra on reflashing kit.

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Anduril 2 is not even finished yet. I don’t think manufacturers will switch for an already released model. Maybe a future flashlight, next year or so.

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Thanks. I’ll wait until next year then. Like I said, not in a hurry – I haven’t bought a flashlight in the past 25 years, LOL. Only headlamps.

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Thanks. I’ll wait until next year then. Like I said, not in a hurry – I haven’t bought a flashlight in the past 25 years, LOL. Only headlamps.

I think you owe it to yourself to grab an edc then, may I recommend the KR4? Big Smile

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Hello Hank,

Can you get Osram KY CSLNM1.FY (yellow) emitter for Noctigon K1? As there is already green and red variant, I think, yellow is at least that useful, if not more (I would love one in my hands, to be honest).


Yes, just added this option for K1 and KR1.

Does anyone have a picture of this beam they can share? even if it is the new Manker light? I cannot find it online and i am interested in this version of the KR1.

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Thanks. I’ll wait until next year then. Like I said, not in a hurry – I haven’t bought a flashlight in the past 25 years, LOL. Only headlamps.
I think you owe it to yourself to grab an edc then, may I recommend the KR4? Big Smile

I’m a minimalist, and don’t even EDC my wallet and car key (and haven’t used my house key in the 10 years I’ve owned my house). I like the look of the D4V2, mainly for the emitter choices (2700K SST20 and 2700K E21A) and that it’s a quad. If I get a flashlight, I would put it on my head like this guy below. I don’t understand flashlights that are not headlamps. Why wouldn’t you want your hands free? I also don’t understand tail switches. Seems like you have to use other hand to operate switch, do gymnastic finger movement, or hold the light like a police officer.

https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/iksrla/4_headband_d4v2_e21a...

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I love the ingenuity of using the headband that way, looks like ill be buying one today, thanks! and definitely hold the tailswitch like police officer . I was so opposed to tail switches when I started this hobby, but in my practical use I have come to prefer it for it is simplicity and ALWAYS knowing where the go button is in the dark. of course with headlamp the button is always in the same spot Wink I wish I was a minimalist, im closer to the hoarder side of things. but life is to short to not own some sweet gear, if that is your kind of thing.

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Artiet59 wrote:
I love the ingenuity of using the headband that way, looks like ill be buying one today, thanks! and definitely hold the tailswitch like police officer . I was so opposed to tail switches when I started this hobby, but in my practical use I have come to prefer it for it is simplicity and ALWAYS knowing where the go button is in the dark. of course with headlamp the button is always in the same spot Wink

You only use your lights for brief periods of time? My arm would get tired holding a light like a police officer for a two hour run. Tired

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Hank Wang wrote:
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Hello Hank,

Can you get Osram KY CSLNM1.FY (yellow) emitter for Noctigon K1? As there is already green and red variant, I think, yellow is at least that useful, if not more (I would love one in my hands, to be honest).


Yes, just added this option for K1 and KR1.

Thank you!

I didn’t expect, that it will become available this soon. Ordered one K1 Party

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Does anyone have a picture of this beam they can share? even if it is the new Manker light? I cannot find it online and i am interested in this version of the KR1.

I am not good at making and hosting beamshots, but I will be able to post here my experiences, once I receive it.
I don’t have K1 with the Cool White Osram CSLNM1 emitter, but I have one with the Pure Green CSLNM1 already.
Also, I have a K1 with SST-20 4000K 95 CRI earlier, but currently it seems to be unavailable, so I am glad, that I grabbed one, while I could Smile

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lightningrunner wrote:
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I love the ingenuity of using the headband that way, looks like ill be buying one today, thanks! and definitely hold the tailswitch like police officer . I was so opposed to tail switches when I started this hobby, but in my practical use I have come to prefer it for it is simplicity and ALWAYS knowing where the go button is in the dark. of course with headlamp the button is always in the same spot Wink

You only use your lights for brief periods of time? My arm would get tired holding a light like a police officer for a two hour run. Tired


Yea, usually light during the day while working on an install or searching for random things here and there under the car/ engine compartment/barn work shop/etc. and at night if i’m hiking and the sun sets I would be more apt to hold the light in a normal position but turn it on/off in the reverse “cop” grip. I wish I was at the point of doing two hour runs, its been a really long time since I’ve been there (but thats on me) AND I had not even realized what your u/name was until now… I do agree with you, if you are running then headlamp all the way, definitely not carrying a torch. Im not here to disagree or push a light on you, just having some fun. Keep it light out there. -Artie

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adam7027 wrote:
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adam7027 wrote:
Hello Hank,

Can you get Osram KY CSLNM1.FY (yellow) emitter for Noctigon K1? As there is already green and red variant, I think, yellow is at least that useful, if not more (I would love one in my hands, to be honest).


Yes, just added this option for K1 and KR1.

Thank you!

I didn’t expect, that it will become available this soon. Ordered one K1 Party

Artiet59 wrote:
Does anyone have a picture of this beam they can share? even if it is the new Manker light? I cannot find it online and i am interested in this version of the KR1.

I am not good at making and hosting beamshots, but I will be able to post here my experiences, once I receive it.
I don’t have K1 with the Cool White Osram CSLNM1 emitter, but I have one with the Pure Green CSLNM1 already.
Also, I have a K1 with SST-20 4000K 95 CRI earlier, but currently it seems to be unavailable, so I am glad, that I grabbed one, while I could Smile


I would really appreciate that, thank you!

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Is shipping to U.K. included in cost at checkout on your website

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Is shipping to U.K. included in cost at checkout on your website

There are two shipping options in the check out process.
1. Free shipping (2~4 weeks)
2. Expediated shipping ($18 shipping fee, 1 week delivery)

https://intl-outdoor.com, Noctigon, Emisar, flashlight components.

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Great thank you, looks like I’ll be placing an order soon.

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Hank feel free to make the KR4 in that green as well Big Smile

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Hank feel free to make the KR4 in that green as well Big Smile

^^ oh my god, please!

it would definitely be the the first time where I buy two versions of the same flashlight!

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Hank - Can the K1 driver for the W1 be changed to get higher amps for the green W1?

I'd like to set it for at least 6, as high as 7 amps. I reviewed and asked bout it here: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1703551#comment-1703551

Doesn't seem do-able from firmware, so assume it's a resistor mod, if safe/possible to do so.

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Is there any update regarding the deep carrying clip for the KR4?

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I just received my latest order from Hank. I like warm light, but I have to say that I did not expect E21A 2700K R9080 to be this magical.

Colors look perfect, and it does not look like a typical 2700K led at all. It looks pure white on a white wall, there is no trace of yellow. Even SST-20 2700K JA3, which is known to be below BBL, looks a little bit yellow. At first I was sure that I actually received E21A 3500K R9080 by mistake. Only after comparing it directly to SST-20 2700K JA3 was I able to convince myself that it really is 2700K.

I now have D4V2 flashlights with these warm emitters:

  • E21A 2000K R9050 (received today)
  • E21A 2200K R9050
  • E21A 2700K R9080 (received today)
  • SST-20 2700K JA3
  • XP-L HI 2850K T6 8B (received today)

I still like all of them, but E21A 2700K R9080 is by far the best. There is no comparison. I have Lee Zircon 802 and 803 minus green filters, but even with a filter none of the other leds look magical like this one does. Perhaps Lee Zircon filters are not suitable for very warm leds, I do not know. I use E21A 2200K R9050 with a Lee Zircon 803 filter, and it does make it look a little bit better.

I suspect the reason E21A 2700K R9080 looks the best is that it has the highest R9 and the lowest DUV of them all. R9 makes a lot of difference. You should definitely get it if you like warm light.

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lightdecay wrote:
I just received my latest order from Hank. I like warm light, but I have to say that I did not expect E21A 2700K R9080 to be this magical.

Colors look perfect, and it does not look like a typical 2700K led at all. It looks pure white on a white wall, there is no trace of yellow. Even SST-20 2700K JA3, which is known to be below BBL, looks a little bit yellow. At first I was sure that I actually received E21A 3500K R9080 by mistake. Only after comparing it directly to SST-20 2700K JA3 was I able to convince myself that it really is 2700K.

I now have D4V2 flashlights with these warm emitters:

  • E21A 2000K R9050 (received today)
  • E21A 2200K R9050
  • E21A 2700K R9080 (received today)
  • SST-20 2700K JA3
  • XP-L HI 2850K T6 8B (received today)

I still like all of them, but E21A 2700K R9080 is by far the best. There is no comparison. I have Lee Zircon 802 and 803 minus green filters, but even with a filter none of the other leds look magical like this one does. Perhaps Lee Zircon filters are not suitable for very warm leds, I do not know. I use E21A 2200K R9050 with a Lee Zircon 803 filter, and it does make it look a little bit better.

I suspect the reason E21A 2700K R9080 looks the best is that it has the highest R9 and the lowest DUV of them all. R9 makes a lot of difference. You should definitely get it if you like warm light.


Thank you for this! I am new to this and have been torn about which one of the e21 emitters to get my next Hank light in. Awesome input!

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There are two shipping options in the check out process. 1. Free shipping (2~4 weeks) 2. Expediated shipping ($18 shipping fee, 1 week delivery)

Guess I should have chosen expedited shipping. My order placed 10 days ago has not shipped yet. Facepalm

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TexasToasted wrote:

Guess I should have chosen expedited shipping. My order placed 10 days ago has not shipped yet. Facepalm

You know….. China has been on holiday since the first of October till the 8th so pretty much everything came to a close till festivities ended….

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Guess I should have chosen expedited shipping. My order placed 10 days ago has not shipped yet. Facepalm

You know….. China has been on holiday since the first of October till the 8th so pretty much everything came to a close till festivities ended….


I saw that on BG or AE as well. hard to wait though Cool

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XP-E2 Amber makes E21A 2000K R9050 look like a standard 2700K incandescent light bulb with perfect color rendering.

Beamshot: E21A 2000K R9050 vs XP-E2 Amber.

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will34 wrote:
Is there any update regarding the deep carrying clip for the KR4?

It has gone quiet Sad which is helping me save/plan for the perfect KR4 Cool

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will34 wrote:
Is there any update regarding the deep carrying clip for the KR4?

It has gone quiet Sad which is helping me save/plan for the perfect KR4 Cool

The new clip is already under production, it should be available within this month.

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Artiet59 wrote:
Thank you for this! I am new to this and have been torn about which one of the e21 emitters to get my next Hank light in. Awesome input!

You should definitely get one in 4500K. I have a few Nichia 291B sw45k (also 4500K) emitters, which were being already praised for being a nice neutral tint, but in my opinion, that is too rosy, and even looks a bit rusty compared to E21A 4500K.

E21A 4500K is simply the best high power neutral tint, you can get currently. It is about perfect.

By the way, I am also expecting back 3500K into the available tint list, which is again a very good tint.

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adam7027 wrote:
Artiet59 wrote:
Thank you for this! I am new to this and have been torn about which one of the e21 emitters to get my next Hank light in. Awesome input!

You should definitely get one in 4500K. I have a few Nichia 291B sw45k (also 4500K) emitters, which were being already praised for being a nice neutral tint, but in my opinion, that is too rosy, and even looks a bit rusty compared to E21A 4500K.

E21A 4500K is simply the best high power neutral tint, you can get currently. It is about perfect.

By the way, I am also expecting back 3500K into the available tint list, which is again a very good tint.


Awesome, thank you! really appreciate the input Big Smile Thumbs Up

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Souichirou wrote:
TexasToasted wrote:

Guess I should have chosen expedited shipping. My order placed 10 days ago has not shipped yet. Facepalm

You know….. China has been on holiday since the first of October till the 8th so pretty much everything came to a close till festivities ended….

Got my shipping notice yesterday

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