Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 vs Convoy T2

Ultratac A1.

AA or 14500 support. L-M-H no mode memory, no blinkies. Does have a greenish tint though.

Hum, when you mean “larger housing”, what does it mean? Are you referring to the MCPCB size it can take?

Just my guess of what is meant:

Convoy T2 has a slightly bigger physical body than the Lumintop Tool AA 2.0.

Tool AA 2.0 uses XPL-HD or XP-L2 LED, results in sort of a more floody beam pattern.
Convoy T2 with XP-G2 will have a more focused/throwy beam pattern (the Nichia 219C variant of Convoy T2 will still be a bit floody though).

The newer Convoy T2 apparently uses a more regulated driver (in my test, it will only limit using up to a certain amount of power), unlike the Tool AA 2.0 which appears to be direct-driven.
(the older Convoy T2 seems to also be direct-driven?)

Oh, ok, now I see what was meant :person_facepalming:
Thanks for explaining d_t_a. :+1:
I was thinking about the T2 MCPCB because the “old” version takes 14mm LED boards, and I thought the “new version” would take larger ones (16mm in this case,which would be good).

Due to this I actually sent a message to Simon in AliExpress asking about that. Let’s see what he replies.

I have a T2 and it is a nice light. I’ve modded it so it doesn’t have the original pieces anymore. It was nice, but lacking something…Maybe the new driver + Nichia is something to try :wink:

This review says the T2 has PWM

This review says the Tool has NoPWM

Yep. That sums it up. I really like the new version of it. I read some reviews of the older version and almost didn’t buy the light because of the annoying strobe and PWM issues but the new update was nice. Simple 4 mode UI and good regulation as well. It’s my new workhorse. Will try to achieve a more focused beam by adding a thin copper washer between the reflector and the led. An M4 size washer maybe? I hope it doesn’t affect the efficiency of the reflector and just add a bit more intensity to the beam. I also noticed that the glass was wobbly and making some noise when I shake the light so I changed the glow ring with a bit thicker ring to hold it in place.

That T2 review is of OLD gen.

Brand new T2 hasn't been tested yet.

Thanks for confirming d_t_a’s explanation :wink:

I may be in for some more of these lights, to mod for 14500 only! I like how resistant it is and good it is to mod :wink:

Thanks again!

Just bought gen2 Convoy T2, AA and 14500 cells supported and confirmed by Simon that this one is PWM free.

Convoy T2 gen2

T2 new driver

thanks for sharing updated facts
sounds great, congrats

what features make you choose the convoy over the tool?

Thx Jonathan.

I read on several places that it has better beam than Tool and a lot of option to mod with different drivers and batteries.

Hum, having both, under a modder perspective, I would say that the pros of the Tool AA are:

- less weight

- smaller in length,

  • smaller in diameter
    In resume, more elegant and more EDC’able.

The pros of the Convoy T2 (old version):

- more robust,

- takes 17mm drivers

- takes 14mm or slightly larger MCPCBs

- can take screw-in clips

- can take forward clicky swithces more easily.

  • has a shelf, which is better for heat dissipation
    In resume, more moddable, and a true “beat me” flashlight.

In terms of user interface, I didn’t like any of both, so I replaced the drivers and also the Leds.

While stock, the T2 had better beam than the Tool AA, due to the led used and the OP reflector.

As for the T2 with the new driver, I can’t speak about it!

Here’s a physical comparison:
Sofirn SF10 > Sofirn SF14 > Convoy T2 > Jaxman E3 > Lumintop Tool AA

sounds like
For a modder, Convoy

For a non modder, Tool

very helpful, as always

Thanks Jon :wink:

Well, about which one is better, it truly depends!

It will decompose it in several dimmensions:

1) If you want a brighter flahslight, you’ll choose the Tool AA.
BUT, for it to be brighter, you need to use 14500 batteries.
BUT using 14500s will make the light heat faster.
SO, having a thinner pill/body, the Tool AA will probably hang on less time and will eventually become hotter than the T2.
In this case, it should also be considered that the flahslight doesn’t have DTP MCPCB, only a 1mm aluminium pill, less ideal for heat dissipation.

On the contrary, if you want a flashlight that can probably handle somemore heat for some more time, the T2 may be the route.

2) If you want a more elegant, leightweight and discrete flashligt, you’ll choose the Tool AA.

3) If you want a “Strobe-less” flashlight, you will chose the new Convoy T2.

4) If you want a flashlight capable of falling and taking some beat and still be working in a reliable way, you’ll choose the Convoy T2.

5) If you want a flashlight capable of deep carry, you probably choose the T2 (and a screw-in clip and some bolts and screws :D)

6) If you a want a flashlight that you can fix more easily, you’ll choose a T2.

7) If you want a light with more Leds choice, you’ll pick the T2.

8) If you want a flashlight in different colours or materials, you will chose a Tool AA

So…there may be some ifs when saying which is bettter or not :wink:
It will depend on the use!

I’ll tell you that in the beginning of the year I set my EDC and it included 2 Tool AAs (modded), and they work flawlessly!
But now I am thinking about modding a T2 or a Jaxman E2 for more robutness, specially because I use 14500s and the Tools get hot!

So, chosing will depend on the needs and uses :wink:

You guys should throw the Lumintop Vega into the mix as well;

80cri with Good build quality and more beef than regular AA Tool
Best part is you will be carrying a flashlight most people do not even know about due to being Drop exclusive.
Have the Olive one and love it.

my personal preference is the Copper option of the Tool

others may enjoy the Titanium options

which is best?
for whom?
LOL LOL LOL

the short answer, Both is Best

The olive one is stuck in my memory since it was relased :wink:

I never bought one because I knew I would be trying to mod it, but the e-switch would eventually interfere with my “needs”.

It is shorter and more attractive than the regular ones , and surely the 80CRI is a plus when getting it :wink:

As for the copper and titanium ones…I hope I can still manage funds to grab one of each in some time :wink:

They surely worth it :blush:

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The AA Vega is not a e-switch, that was a mistake in the description when released.
Regular reverse clicky.

Seems like you’ve said it to me before but I forgot :person_facepalming:

So…that opens some possibilites :smiling_imp:
Thanks for confirming!!!