FireflyLite E12R 12*emitters 15000LM 1x21700 Flashlight

[oldsam]

looks cool!

[PatX]

Very Interested!

[Lojik]

@FireFlies

@Pip

I agree with everyone else here, keep the fireflies name.

In English the word lite means something that is made smaller or cheaper. For example a software package that is cheaper and has less options would be called lite.

Lite is not a creative spelling of light, it has a completely different and negative meaning.

That may be why everyone has the negative reaction to the name.

Fireflies is simple and beautiful.

Fireflylite creates an immediate negative reaction.

And thank you for your amazing flashlights. The E07 is my favorite flashlight and the PL47 is my favorite headlight.

Is there going to be a E07 gen2 coming? I would like to see one with a deeper optic and more throw, similar to the optic in the astrolux mf01 mini.

Thanks for explaining. We did not aware that. now we have to make a deliberate decision about the new name. :person_facepalming:

I will start a new OP for E07 Gen2

Thank you so much for listening.

I also love the name Fireflies, and I also wanted to add to what the poster above said about how “Lite” really is just another way to say “weaker” & “cheaper”. But I am so happy to see that you are so willing to listen to our feedback. I really just wanted to write and tell you Thank you so much for being so open.

I LOVE your lights and I can’t wait for more of your work. ROT66 Gen2 Nichia 219B is my all-time favorite light. I’m kinda worried that one of your new lights is gonna knock the ROT66 off my throne, but I guess that’s a good problem to have

Thank you again Sincerely.

[FireFlies]

@SKV89

@Mureo

Interested if we can get SST-20 2700k.

They do have the SST-20 2700k and its the best batch I’ve seen in terms of tint. You can email them to make a 2700k version if they don’t have that listed as an option. That’s how I got a 2700k E07.

Yes, new optics also works with ST20 emitters , But LH351D hi CRI version can get much more lumens , why still choose ST20 2700K of much less brightness?

[adam7027]

@FireFlies

@SKV89

They do have the SST-20 2700k and its the best batch I’ve seen in terms of tint. You can email them to make a 2700k version if they don’t have that listed as an option. That’s how I got a 2700k E07.

Yes, new optics also works with ST20 emitters , But LH351D hi CRI version can get much more lumens , why still choose ST20 2700K of much less brightness?

If the emitting spectrum is examined in both LH351D and SST-20, the reds in the SST-20 are more complete. This is especially important and noticeable, if we go towards warm white. An emitter being 95 CRI instead of 90 CRI means that, the SST-20 is twice as good as the LH351D, if we treat those numbers as subtracting them from 100 - it is half of the errors in color rendering.

This would mean, that if Luminus would make 95 CRI SST-20 in 5000K, I would also not hesitate to choose that over the LH351D, but for now, in 5000K CCT, the LH351D remains the best 3.5mm×3.5mm footprint LED. Nichia 219C is only marginally better, and it is less efficient.

[lightdecay]

@FireFlies

@SKV89

@Mureo

Interested if we can get SST-20 2700k.

They do have the SST-20 2700k and its the best batch I’ve seen in terms of tint. You can email them to make a 2700k version if they don’t have that listed as an option. That’s how I got a 2700k E07.

Yes, new optics also works with ST20 emitters , But LH351D hi CRI version can get much more lumens , why still choose ST20 2700K of much less brightness?

Most of us who already own many other flashlights care a lot more about LED type, color temperature, and tint than lumens or price.

Someone who specifically asks for SST-20 2700K JA3 is unlikely to settle for LH351D 5000K CRI90, and probably doesn’t care that SST-20 2700K outputs fewer lumens. The difference between 7000 lumens and 12000 lumens is barely noticeable, while the difference between rosy and green tint or 2700K and 5000K color temperature is very obvious.

If you can offer E12R with a variety of good LED options, you will probably sell more of them.

Here are some I would buy:
warm white XP-L HI, like XP-L HI 7A 3300K
warm white LH351D, like LH351D 2700K CRI90
Nichia 219B sw45k
XP-E2 Amber
SST-20 Deep Red
XP-E2 Far Red

[Phatster]

What will the price be approximately? Intrested in a group buy!

[Pavlo]

CRI and color reproduction aside, the advantage over SST20 is that it is more throwy than the LH351D. The challenge with multi emitter lights is they tend to be very floody. By using SST20, you get increased throw but decreased lumens. The increased throw will possibly be more useful depending on intended use, and is my personal preference over LH351D. It is easier to diffuse a light, but you can’t make a floody light more throwy. That means the SST20 gives better flexibility.

[Tredd]

Interested in one

[VrestoTaylor]

interested in:

[mizjif]

Very interested! Any idea on release date?

[stephenk]

What is the expected sustained brightness of this light?

[chouster]

219B-V1, please.

My spoiled eyes won’t let my mouth call these Samsung LEDs high CRI. They’re great, probably. Just not what I want.

The light seems to be really decent, I’m just unsure if I’m willing and still able to perform a successful 12 emitter swap plus leaving the AUX LED’s untouched.

[stephenk]

@Robin Dobbie

Wouldn’t that depend greatly on the emitter, ambient temp, and how much of the light was being held by a hand(at whatever temperature)?

Yes it would, but I think it is something that manufacturers need to be more honest about. I know so many muggles who have bought a zillion lumen pocket rockets only to find out that after a few minutes they are dimmer than a $20 light from a hardware store.

[SKV89]

@stephenk

@Robin Dobbie

Wouldn’t that depend greatly on the emitter, ambient temp, and how much of the light was being held by a hand(at whatever temperature)?

Yes it would, but I think it is something that manufacturers need to be more honest about. I know so many muggles who have bought a zillion lumen pocket rockets only to find out that after a few minutes they are dimmer than a $20 light from a hardware store.

Sustained lumens will depend on which emitter also along with the many other parameters. For example, SST-20 90CRI will sustain about half of the lumens of the XPL-HI. The driver can regulate 6A and output will lower once temperature exceeds the set threshold that is modifiable by the user. If you have your hands on the light while using and if you are in cool temperature with a breeze outdoor, it should be no problem sustaining the output at 6A.

You can calculate the approximate lumens using this simple calculator.
http://www.ledcalc.fonarevka.ru/?pct&LedCount=2&Imin=250&Imax=3000&Istep=250&led1=XPG2&bin1=R5&cnt1=7&led2=XPL2&bin2=V6&cnt2=7

[will34]

My guess is around 1,200lm if they allow it to get uncomfortably warm, on anything other than XPL

[Thujone]

@will34

My guess is around 1,200lm if they allow it to get uncomfortably warm, on anything other than XPL

It is up to you to calibrate and configure temp ceiling in Anduril.

[Lightbringer]

Yep. Had 2 identical lights (not Fireflies), one was within a degree at room temp (both left untouched for hours to equilibrate), and the other was reading something like 45°C even though room temp was something like 21°C.

[oakey22]

I am interested in one of these, what will the price point be?

[Fructi]

Do you plan to also ship them with the 219b sw45k? I’d buy one of those, otherwise just a E07 for me.