Yeah there have been people talking about building and buying lights with the new gen Osram emitters that probably aren’t even aware of Emisar-Noctigon. Hank just chose a naming scheme that is way, way easier to understand and memorize than Osram’s product IDs.
My $0.02… GF2 for the green light version, YF2, for yellow, etc. would make sense for the sake of not having to memorize or look up the specific codes too! …and yes, I know “white flat” comes from the pad color rather than the light emitted but this would make sense since the original “WF” is the white light version anyway.
The “.1” simply denotes 4x4mm pad versions. For hotrod flashlight use that larger thermal pad should be an advantage (although that depends heavily on what bins people have access to based on some of the tests of the CU- emitters here recently).
Oh my, it was a mess before and now it’s even worse
It would be best of one side switched their naming but I doubt it will happen because this would confuse their existing customers.
Vinh’s lights are far less popular but not rare enough to be disregarded. And he used the naming for a longer time, so there are quite a few mentions around.
I strongly suggest using neither Vinh nor Hank naming. Or at very least making it clear which is being used, i.e. Hank-W2.1. Even in the case of Hank-W2.2 - that’s because even if the name has a singular meaning now, Vinh may want to use it eventually.
The more I consider it, I think the nick names should be dropped altogether. Boost HL and Boost HX are clear enough and brief. Funny, we are on the 3rd generation of these LED's already.
I'm more concerned about the lack of knowledge of them here. Hank rates the K1 with the HL as more throw than the HX (650 kcd vs. 600 kcd), but that's just one data point, and we don't know what the amps and lumens are. I think these #'s are higher than the W1 and W2, but I'm not sure now, since Hank took those options down.
Wow I completely missed that, assumed the “W2.1” he listed was the CULPM1.TG until now and that there was a “W1.1” listed as well still. Yeah Hank’s nomenclature makes little sense IMHO.
I would personally just prefer to use the part numbers. CULPM1 (and the .TG part if we’re discussing the color variants)… I wander over to reddit and nobody is keeping any of the conventions for the “2.1” style names straight… If the part numbers are hard to remember, just specify 3030 or 4040 and 1mm or 2mm.
The good news at least is that probably nobody is actually talking about the CULNM1.TG because it’s basically impossible to get a hold of. So that assumption makes things slightly easier to figure out…
That post is old (days? ). I've dropped the nick names in favor of their real names: Boost HL and Boost HX. Simple, to the point, can be shortened to HL or HX, and the manufacturer named them that way, so what could be better?
OSRAM LED’s for max throw
Color Part # footprint (LED surface) Max/Pulsed Peak Output (A)
White – KW CSLNM1.TG – 3030 (1mm²) W1 3/3.3 A 4.5-5.0 A (W1/NM1)
White – KW CSLPM1.TG – 3030 (2mm²) W2 5/6 A 7.0-8.0 A (W2/PM1)
White – KW CULNM1.TG – 4040 (1mm²) 3.3/4 A ~6 A (Boost HL)
White – KW CULPM1.TG – 4040 (2mm²) 6.6/8 A 9 A (Boost HX)
Red – KR CSLNM1.23 – 3030 (1mm²) W1
Blue – KB CSLNM1.14 – 3030 (1mm²) W1
Green – KP CSLNM1.F1 – 3030 (1mm²) W1 3/4 A 6.5 – 7.0 A
Green – KP CSLPM1.F1 – 3030 (2mm²) W1
Just fyi, if you follow the links to the individual LED's above, you may notice the W1, W2, and Boost HX are in full production phase, while the Boost HL is in End-Of-Life and not recommended for new designs. This may explain the availability issues.
Yeah, I remember when Led4Power had the CULNM1.TG/Boost HL he could only get a small number and they were already discontinued.
Sorry, I wasn't really addressing your table in particular, but rather the use of the "W2.1" style nicknames in general - I keep seeing them used inconsistently so I never know what is actually meant by them...
The CULNM sold by L4P was also a low flux bin. Surprisingly Fireflies was able to source the 6Q, which is the 2nd highest flux bin for their new lights. I wonder if the emitter is not really discontinued. They are probably still making them as long as the purchase quantity is high enough.
You’ll want to use the CSLNM1 for the S2, to get similar throw on the CULPM1 it needs to be driven at 7.4 - 8A and that’s getting way to hot in such a small host
To use the CULPM1 in the S2 requires Simon’s fet driver and he won’t give any warranty for it. I’m running it in my C8+ with a Samsung 30Q which peaks at 7.4A, no higher. I get 1300 lumens and 1002m range. I only have a cheap meter so I like to subtract 50m off that measurement
If you don’t want to run at 7+ amps with an 18350, wouldn’t the CULPM1 not be recommended for a C8+ 18350 tube? since it needs to be driven at 7.4 – 8A?
). I've dropped the nick names in favor of their real names: Boost HL and Boost HX. Simple, to the point, can be shortened to HL or HX, and the manufacturer named them that way, so what could be better?