FireflyLite E12R 12*emitters 15000LM 1x21700 Flashlight

(1) I like the host, but this flashlight needs more and better options for emitters, like Nichia 219B sw45k.

(2) Why is the color temperature not listed?

Luminous SST20 10W
Sumsung LH351D CRI90 (+$15.00)
CREE XPL2 HD (+$30.00)

(3) Does this mean it ships with Anduril 2? Could we get the option to choose Anduril or Anduril 2 depending on our preference?

UI - open-source Anduril V2 firmware

sw45k would be nice but maybe those are depleted since it was said Nichia discontinued them years ago. The purchase page seems more like a place holder. Maybe he is still seeking binned emitters, which is very difficult to procure and will add details later. What I would like to see is tint mix option. I am using 5x 2700k XPL2 with 4x 6500k XPL2 in my Nitecore TM9K and the tint is gorgeous. Even CRI went up a bit after tint mixing. Maybe add a small fee for tint mixing option?

I would get one

The Astrolux MF01S has 6 more LEDs, much more thermal mass and still costs less. I guess the driver costs a lot to produce? or it’s just overpriced.

That is a really good point. I love my MF01S

I kind of explained the reason a few post above. I have two MF01S and I never use them because of the size and because it does not have a regulated driver. The 7135 and FET drivers on the Astrolux, Lumintop, Hakelite, Nightwatch have the same problem. Very inefficient and output drops quickly to impractical levels.

My E07’s have had great quality, no complaints there. This E12 has more LEDs, built-in charging and a better driver. Plus, I’m sure there’ll be coupons or group deals coming out soon which’ll reduce the price.
The truly overpriced flashlights are those ‘custom’ titanium ones that have like 600 lms and cost $400.

Not baiting you but I would be interested in which competing lights you mean? As I can’t think of anything close for size/output/tint - and IMO coke can size lights don’t count as we are talking one battery here.

It’d be nice if you could mention the colour temperature of the LEDs

Let’s see how the buck driver actually outputs 6A constantly and how quickly it drops to a maintainable 3A constant current.

Why not 12x3=36Amps? :smiley:

The only thing similar is that FT02s should produce similar lumens under initial turbo output but is only available in CW 70CRI and reflector so the typical Cree ugly egg yolk or tint shift will be very noticeable. The E12R uses TIR optics and will have 95+ CRI options and WW/NW (though still to be listed). The FT02S uses the typical cheap FET with poor efficiency whereas the E12R uses a regulated and high efficiency Lume1 driver. The E12R will be more of a tool whereas the FT02s is more of a toy. Astrolux does not use high quality components whereas FF is willing to invest in premium parts.

Also the FT02s is MUCH bigger than the E12R.

Is this for certain? I’m looking, but I don’t see a statement from either Jackie or Loneoceans about it being a Lume1 variant. Just the first post stating it will be a buck driver.

That is awesome if true.

Hopefully it would be upgraded with reverse polarity protection.

The FT02s tube is also 28.3% fatter. But regardless, you are comparing the linear dimensions not the volume. For example a 20% increase in the radius of a sphere equates to 73% increase in the volume. Even if the 2D dimensions don’t seem that much bigger, they are much bigger when you see and hold them in person. The size increase of the FT02s vs the E12R puts it in another size class. The E12R will still manage to fit in many pockets but the FT02s will require very large pockets.

I don’t know the details besides it is a Loneocean driver. Jack said he wants to really up the level of his new lights and decided to go with the much more expensive driver among other improvements despite losing price competitiveness with the budget brands.

I’m sorry, but I can’t agree with you on that.

Is it really in stock as the FF website says and is the LH351D 5000K?

Arguing the size is pointless as it is subjective. Some people feel the D18 is pocketable while some feel a D4 is at the limit for being EDC. If you feel they are the same size class, then you are entitled to your own opinion.

The weight of the FT02s would help theoretically but due to the budget non-regulated driver, it will not be able to make use of the mass and sustain output very well. Even my MT09R weighing 650g gradually drops down to about 200 lumens in like 10 minutes. That’s the problem with these budget lights using budget drivers. The Olight and Fenix with their efficient regulated driver can sustain output far better than the budget brands despite turbo is being much less than the budget brands. The E12R with the Lume driver should be able to sustain output better than the FT02S despite the smaller mass.

The ft02s is like an ft03 with a slightly smaller head. The e12r is an e07 with a slightly larger head. See what I did there? :wink:

Wouldn’t it have made more sense to go with a 6v boost driver? The MS03 is fully regulated and costs less than the XPL-2 E12R. I’m thinking maybe I should get that instead.