Coronavirus **personal experiences** thread

I disagree (whatever it was youse were discussing; I drifted off for a while).

Resume your disorder…

I love it! I knew we could count on you! Let the discord continue!

I just found out my Mom’s breast cancer is back. She’s going to be going in for surgery next week. Then maybe Chemo therapy after that, depending on the tumor analysis after removal. The greatest risk I see in the whole thing is catching Covid while she is weakened. Normally she is is great health, but the surgury will be major. And the whole point of Chemo is to push all your cells to the verge of death so the weakest (cancer) cells die. She can’t get Covid during this. And South Dakota hasn’t been taking it serious.

Damn. I wish for the best for her.

My best friends wife just went through almost exactly that same thing and she did get covid in the hospital. She very nearly did not survive but 3 months later she is back home. She is nearly 70 and a fighter and a marvelously hard headed woman and I think that is essential in beating something like this.

Best of luck to your mother and remember, attitude!

I hope your mom does fine, Joshk!

My biggest worry was that my niece would catch COVID-19 when she occasionally goes to school (most of the time she is home-schooled.)

I recently heard Dr. Fauci in an interview on CBS News say that kids spread COVID-19 at school at a very low rate, so I am not as worried as I was before.

Dr. Fauci even pointed out that that information is counter-intuitive because the stereotype is that kids generally spread disease at school at high rates.

I work in a secondary school (12yrs+), and here is my nuance on that.

In the Netherlands, all schools are open and school children are not required to keep distance (so 80% don’t). Masks must be worn when moving in the corridors but during class or when they sit still during breaks they are not mandated (so 80% don’t, children are just like grownups). In general a large part of the pupils are all over each other all the time. The Netherlands is in a second wave of infections (not as strong as in the US but very worrying all the same). Among our kids is COVID transmission going on, in our school of 850 pupils from 12 to 18 there are several new cases every week, from all ages, of which part clearly is contracted from children in their own class (but transmission did not neccessarily happen in school itself, there is no checking that).

Looking at numbers in the Netherlands, secondary schools do significantly add to the case numbers (primary schools hardly) but are not the major cause of this wave of infections. Given the complete lack of social distancing in schools, one can indeed argue that transmission numbers among school children are relatively low.

Maybe she can get the first vaccine dose before starting all this. It would give at least partial protection. Good luck.

Seems Fox has had a slight falling out with the extreme crazies for the rare reporting of the truth. Now the faithful are moving on to the total conspiracy channels. Rupert’s kids are influencing him to do what’s actually good for the nation rather than his pocket book for a change. Chris Wallace is the one true reporter at Fox. Fox would be better off if the other cheerleaders moved over to the new lap dog channels.

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Thank you for posting that. I like to hear/read about what is happening in other countries

Closing restaurants seems to do nearly nothing in Germany. It’s about time to send office stuff home since there’s the real problem. I’m working myself with seven other colleagues at our office rooms. Too close together imo. Stop being stupid closing down shops where people are wearing masks and keeping distance anyway, and start doing the right things. I’m really pissed.

Also, the virus aerosol hangs in the air for a long time, especially during cold dry air conditions of winter.

Tha’s why California has gone to requiring wearing masks indoors in any shared work or public space —- because the virus load in the air can build up over time as people go in and out.

None of the precautions are 100 percent effective. All of them taken together are mostly fairly helpful.

Data?

None except some numbers and thoughts. 30000 new infection, 600 deaths. Those measures cost an incredible amount of money while it cannot be argued that shutting down businesses that had developed high hygienic standards are hotspots.

Here’s that infrared camera view of aerosols, mentioned in a Washington Post link earlier:

In the USA, a lot of people in restaurants are not distancing and masking. And you can’t eat or drink while masking.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/09/close-case-contact-dining-out-tied-covid-19-spread

Why isn’t everybody getting the latest cocktail? Seems to work. Old, overweight people feel “great” right away if they are privileged enough to have access to it.