Cheapie 18650 up on eBay

http://cgi.ebay.com/200-Lumen-CREE-Led-Tactical-Flashlight-Torch-Light-Lamp-/280612078305?pt=US_Flashlights&hash=item4155c882e1#ht_2589wt_905

Dunno what the deal is, if it's really a Q3 it's a skookum deal - most of the lights in the format go for about twice as much. Only single mode, though

Thanks!!!!!!! but.. is a P60 host?

But , I have found a lot of these non P60 lights will take a P60 pill anyways , when you rip the guts out .

FOr the price one is tempted to just find out , butt , it will have a nasty cheap clicky , which will most likely give problems [ hindsight ]

"rip the guts out" -> what do you mean? remove the internals?

I am tempted to buy, but I need to know if it really fits a P60...

But thinking that it maybe not, and the frontal glass will be plastic instead, and the switch will fail or will be bad....................... also the reflector maybe plastic.......

Pull out the pill , with LED driver , and a P60 pill might drop in , I have several lights Ive done this with

But the P60 module will have a big gap between the module and the body... yes or not? The original LED+driver is screw or press fit?

Yes they can ..

The one I had has a ring that screw in to hold the reflector in place ..

This same ring can hold the p60 pill in place , in the head , ... Might be a bit of pot luck ..

But I find if the reflector is large enough , then a P60 pill will go in OK ..

Do we know the dimensions ? Of this light ..

120mm x 30mm only that (and it can really fit 1x18650 OR 3xAAA? too thin to fit AAA)

I suspect it's a bad copy & paste job or the battery holder would have been pictured. I could be wrong, of course, but that's what usually happens.

I also wouldn't be surprised if the "free shipping" bit was a mistake. The same seller has some other lights that, while mostly competitively priced, don't include free shipping (Skyray for $11 + $9 to the US) and the prices on the lights I checked seem pretty much on par with the competition if you figure in shipping.

Judging by the photo it looks very cheaply made and spray painted.

I just received my shipping notification. No tracking number, naturally, so I guess it'll be here sometime within 1-8 weeks.

^i can wait. lol

The one I got is not great .. dino direct had them for 3 bucks .. they were listed as 300 lumen lights ,, yeah right and I'm the pope

http://www.dinodirect.com/LED-Flashlight-1W-Black.html

Actually i just jammed a 18650 in it and it fit ...that was a surprise ...Still dim as can be ..On the up side it does have a ultra warm light ..a little too brown for me .. kinda dirty .. but i'm sure some would like it .

The body is too cheap for trying to make anything out of it .. just buy a solorforce AAA/18650 for 8$ and be done with it .. it's an ok 3 dollar light ..i'd probably by more to resell but they are barely worth 5 bucks to an un-educated buyer ..Budget light folks will shrug and toss it to the kids . << that is mine with a lexan .. A Q-3 might make it a formidable glove box light .. not sure anyone would spend money to upgrade it . p-60 is worth 3 times the light . not worth the trouble

Well, that's the really nice thing about eBay - if the seller really put bad specs down it's easy enough to start a complaint with eBay and get your money back. I ended up with a Sipik Sk68 for free that way as they had rated it at 300 lumens instead of 200.

Well, this is what I consider abuse of the protection system and to be honest, quite miserable too.

Why, exactly? The light was advertised as "300 Lumen Cree Q5", no brand, no picture of any branding or model number. It was only when I got the light that I realized that:

1. It was a Sipik, as there are at least 10 different lights that use that exact same body styling

2. That the light didn't reach near 300 lumens.

Edit: This is the exact auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=170558513896&si=j4KplNcIABkBIz7mhsSNnxl9OS8%253D&viewitem=#ht_2309wt_1139

Similarly, in the above example there are models of the flashlight that are using CREE Leds and hit the specified lumens, and some that apparently are using low-power generics. If you purchase on eBay, you're entitled to that sort of protection.

Gods...that same seller has a torch with a Q5 emitter claiming to hit "up to 500 lumens"....

I can see both sides of this argument...

*On one hand as an informed buyer one knows full well that the output is exaggerated - Much like DX, and I don't here folks complaining when their Aura P7 doesn't hit the claimed 900 lumens. To take advantage of this may be considered bad manners.

*On the other hand, the seller (most likely due to ignorance) is lying out his ass....and should be punished. Anyone want to buy some ebay protected trustfires?

-Match

When I bought the light originally, I couldn't be considered an informed buyer. I had no idea what to expect.

And that's part of the problem. A few weeks back I went ahead and bought one of the "340 Lumen" X2000 lights on ebay. I knew full and well that it would not be anywhere near the 340 lumen it was sold as. It ended up being about the equivilent to my QminiAA on medium. I got a little pissed then got more pissed at myself for being pissed :(. Anyway, these guys get away with selling lights based on these specs to the average Joe who has no idea. I see no problem in calling these guys out when they over sell. Think of it as helping the common un-informed man