Ya seems gimmicky but I guess maybe it’ll get more people to wear masks. No one where I live wears them except in stores and restaurants. Not even at the gym
In brief — the control measuers that have been effective in use up til now fail with the new Coronavirus variant.
How will it get more people to wear masks?
I don’t think so, anti-maskers are not waiting for this product.
They are not comfortable, they are annoying. Only way to get people to wear a mask is to tell them they can’t enter without one.
It’s been that way in NY since march
Yeah probably true… I don’t think anyone likes wearing masks. Uncomfortable, hard to breathe, fog up glasses, iPhone face unlock doesn’t work…
4th positive Corona test for congressperson.
“Representative Adriano Espaillat, Democrat of New York, announced on Thursday he had tested positive for the coronavirus, as concerns continue to mount on Capitol Hill that efforts to corral lawmakers into secure locations during last week’s siege by Trump supporters may have led to a super-spreader event.
Mr. Espaillat, 66, who received his second dose of the Pfizer vaccine last week, said he was not experiencing any symptoms and that he was isolating at home. In a statement, he said he understood that it took time for the vaccine to be fully effective and that he had continued to take all necessary precautions.”
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some things that dont make sense to me
congresspeople tested positive the day after the invasion, but corona tests are not that quick to detect infection, on a first day of exposure… nor even a week after.
and this congressperson, had already had BOTH doses of the vaccine.
one of the other congresspeople to get a positive test had had only the first dose of the vaccine
I dont know what is going on, but I can make something up…
What if the vaccine is what is giving these people positive corona test results?
What if, they were infected before the invasion… it takes at least 5 days for a test to detect an exposure…
more questions than answers, Im afraid… I dont know what to believe
My perspective on that “news’ text” is not that he got infected in that event, but that due to the situation he (and eventually others) may have been a source of contagion himself/themselves, if not aware of a previous infection!
About the vaccine, as with the one of the flu, isn’t it a more a thing that may prevent harder symptoms/consequences rather than protecting a a person 100% from getting it?
I know that I can get the flu, but if I am vaccinated the chances of developing harder symptoms are less than without it.
About the question of the vaccine provoking a positive test itself, that I can’t reply :zipper_mouth_face:
I assume that mr Espaillat got the Pfizer or the Moderma vaccin, so an mRNA vaccin. There is no possible mechanism that these vaccins cause positive PCR test because no virus DNA has entered the body with these vaccins.
These vaccins are over 90% effective (which is unprecedented btw, we are so lucky that these new mRNA vaccins are so good!) but still not 100%, and besides, he was symptomless which could be an effect of the vaccin.
The first congressman to test positive reportedly related to the Capitol invasion event was as I remember 5 or 6 days after, not just 1, which is plausible.
What they said^ and it should be remembered that: 1) it does not always take five days after a person’s infection with Covid-19 for a test to detect the infection - five days is the recommended minimum waiting time after infection, to maximize the accuracy of the test, but the test can and often does detect infection within a shorter time period after infection; and 2) the Covid-19 vaccines do not prevent you from becoming infected with the virus, they can only prevent you from developing symptoms when you are infected.
Here, some Sign Language Interpreters use this mask: https://victoryprotects.com/pt-pt
It is transparent, not so good for protection, but useful enough to use at distance to do the interpreting job. As for the one you linked above, I wouldn’t probably use it or feel confident using it for this pandemic situation.
Still, I’m sure that some people will use it, because it looks like “super heavy duty facial protective gear” rather than with a…mask :person_facepalming: :smiling_imp:
Remember the warnings about holiday travel?
EXCERPT
I live in Riverside county, and our county is leading California in some statistic for COVID-19.
(I don't recall the specific statistic.)
I remember in Spring of 2020, I wished that COVID-19 wouldn't become a huge problem where I live, but it has happened, and I have known it for a while now.
I am disappointed in the situation, and just hope that my family doesn't get sick. 
Please take care RC. Stay safe as possible.
Thanks!
I hope you and everyone else on BLF stays safe as well. 
My daughter had an onset of internal bleeding, associated with a growth on her ovary. She went in for emergency surgery last Sunday. She had a doctor calling around to hospitals in the area, trying to get her in for surgery, and they all said they were full. But the doc pulled in some favors and got her into a hospital. They took out an ovary and two growths (tumors or cysts, not sure) and took care of the bleeding. DW and I were there in her hospital room to see her when she came out of recovery. Strangely, this “full” hospital had no other patients in that ward. No noises, no sounds. Nurses were sitting around at the station with nothing to do until my daughter was brought over. We’re still trying to figure that one out.
She had a great nurse that night and we left feeling like she was in good hands. But the next shift came on and the day nurse tried to lay a “Covid trip” on her. Said she appeared to not be getting enough oxygen (the machine monitoring her would beep) and must have a breathing problem. Got her to submit to a covid test. Would not give her any water, even when swallowing pills, and harassed her when she didn’t have any urine. Threatened to take away her phone. Wouldn’t let anyone at all into her room, not even someone with power of attorney. In mid-afternoon, the same nurse who’d been in and out all day suddenly came in wearing full PPE. My daughter was afraid they’d move her to the covid ward and she’d really catch it there, so she had them remove the lines, got herself dressed, and checked herself out.
Wishing her the best!
Huh? Nope, I did not write that speculation. Please double-check your attributions and paste your speculations into a Google search before posting them, you may find they’re supported by published facts. Or not.
Huh? Nope, I did not write that speculation.
That came from Coronavirus **personal experiences** thread - #7000 by jon_slider
Please double-check your attributions.
It’s often useful to paste your speculations into a Google search before posting them, you may find they’re supported by published facts. Or not.
It was a wrong addressing when quoting from djozz!
The person who said/asked that was jon_slider here: Coronavirus **personal experiences** thread - #7000 by jon_slider
I belive djozz may have seen the profile photo (white, similar to yours) and copied the sentence, used the quote button and put the wrong username!
I just wanted to say: we did it, finally :exclamation:
It was without time that my country jumped to the top of “number of daily cases per million of habitants” :person_facepalming:
Sorry folks, we are number 1! At least today :weary:
Stupid people, everywhere… :person_facepalming:
Alternative Facts:
this site says Portugal is #18 in cases per million:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/
click on the collumn for cases per million, to sort the list on that category
Portugal is also very low on the percent of case fatalities, less than 2%,
there are at least 60 other countries where the fatality rate is (much) higher.
Portugal is also low on deaths per million of population, there are 30 other countries that are worse.
of course, it is ALL bad
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my present understanding is the vaccine does not prevent testing positive for corona,
the belief is that the vaccine prevents severe symptoms, when testing positive
question
are vaccinated people still contagious, when they test positive?