OSRAM CSLNM1.TG & CULNM1.TG 1mm², CSLPM1.TG & CULPM1.TG 2mm²

I did, the reflector now sits directly on the MCPCB (just like it does with the stock LED). The beam looks okay but not ultra-focused.

I doubt the NEW P30 delivers 8A but can’t measure due to my crappy DMM. But shouldn’t the Boost HX be able to keep up with an XP-L HI in throw for low currents, all other things being equal?

Not really sure. 1000 lumens from a XPL-HI, assuming V2 or V3 bin is maybe 3-4 amps or so (??). Could be dependent on the driver - might not get the same 3-4 amps on a LED with a much lower Vf, like the HX. So the amps could be a problem, plus the condition of the LED/reflow/variations, etc. Not to mention focus/optics issues.

A high amp OSRAM is probably not the best choice for this light with no driver changes.

I was outside for a bit now that it’s dark, and I’m a bit confused. I compared the NEW P30 against my modded Manker U22 V2 which I’ve measured at something above 200k lux (my lux meter doesn’t go any higher). I have to admit that the throw distance of both lights seems about equal to me, the NEW P30’s beam is significantly wider though. Both provide about equally bright illumination at about 500 meters, past which I can’t really see anything anymore anyway. I don’t have any points of reference farther than 500 meters so I’m not really sure how the comparison plays out for longer distances, the Manker sure had more reach but not in a terribly useful way.

So now I’m considering whether I just suck at measuring throw. I’ll redo it at different distances to the lux meter sometime.

Anyway, numbers aside, I’m quite happy with how the NEW P30 turned out. I hated the original beam and if nothing else, that has drastically changed for the better. So that’s ten bucks well spent.

Old school modder :sunglasses: :+1:

If Barkuti will see this he will know I am not the only one on the FET side of the world… I also have problems that certain drivers does not deliver declared amperage output… I know regulated light should be better but for my needs FET would be sufficient plus it generates zero heat on the driver board.

Yes I know it looses a lot of performance as battery drains… Especially those 8A emitters… But performance drop when used with certain types of emitters (4-5A emitters) is certainly not that noticeable with naked eye giving up decent performance “on turbo” up to 15 minutes of runtime, after that it is noticeable…

So Guys who use FET knows that they got to use turbo mode sparingly and that is it…

Ol' school for sure.... In this field, 5-10 years is like ancient history

Difference between KW CSLPM1.TG and KW CULPM1.TG?

Considering the Convoy Z1, which offers KW CSLPM1.TG 6amps or KW CULPM1.TG 8amps

They use the same die but different package. CSLPM1.TG has worse thermals, that’s why Convoy choose to run it with 2 amps less.
Overall CULPM1.TG will be brighter but hotter.

Is the CULPM1.TG better if run at the same amps? Any reason to chose CSLPM1.TG over CULPM1.TG?

How do both compare to SST40/20?

I used the CSLPM1 with the stock 6amp driver and it’s awesome. Had 4x SST40’s die instantly in an order of Z1’s so I installed these.

SST40 in a C8+ maxes out at 642m, the CULPM1 maxes out at 1002m.

SST40 = more lumens with a wider beam
Osram leds = higher intensity with a narrow beam

No idea. The culpm1 hasn’t been officially tested by anyone to compare the data between the two

Assuming equivalent bins, at low currents they would be the same. Once heat starts playing role, CULPM1.TG will be better but up to 6A the difference would be very low.

Have you been able to compare it to a Z1 with KW CULPM1.TG?

Interesting, I will have to find some beamshots to compare how narrow the two are

This is the CSLNM1 which is slightly narrower but you’ll get an idea

Not so slightly. 2mm² Osrams should be almost half way between CSLNM1 and XP-L HI and actually a little closer to XP-L HI. And in Z1 they have a rectangular beam.

I take video demos for all my customers so here’s comparisons for the CSLNM1, CULPM1, XPL HI, SST40 all in the Convoy C8+

Where can I find the video demos?

I know the Z1 has a unique beam based on other videos I’ve seen but I’m still interested in these emitters for different lights

The Osram videos are titled as Osram C8+ V1 & V2, to stop customers jumping on AliExpress bypassing me.

The V2 runs on a fet driver so Convoy won’t sell it under warranty

I just saw this light today. Searched BLF and there are only two mentions of it sitewide. I agree PM1 maybe makes more sense, but it still maybe the most desirable Lumintop in recent times… except it looks like a FET driver. Wonder how that’s gonna work out

EDIT: Also, hold for off UI. Well they sure do know how to eff something up don’t they.