OSRAM CSLNM1.TG & CULNM1.TG 1mm², CSLPM1.TG & CULPM1.TG 2mm²

SST40 in a C8+ maxes out at 642m, the CULPM1 maxes out at 1002m.

SST40 = more lumens with a wider beam
Osram leds = higher intensity with a narrow beam

No idea. The culpm1 hasn’t been officially tested by anyone to compare the data between the two

Assuming equivalent bins, at low currents they would be the same. Once heat starts playing role, CULPM1.TG will be better but up to 6A the difference would be very low.

Have you been able to compare it to a Z1 with KW CULPM1.TG?

Interesting, I will have to find some beamshots to compare how narrow the two are

This is the CSLNM1 which is slightly narrower but you’ll get an idea

Not so slightly. 2mm² Osrams should be almost half way between CSLNM1 and XP-L HI and actually a little closer to XP-L HI. And in Z1 they have a rectangular beam.

I take video demos for all my customers so here’s comparisons for the CSLNM1, CULPM1, XPL HI, SST40 all in the Convoy C8+

Where can I find the video demos?

I know the Z1 has a unique beam based on other videos I’ve seen but I’m still interested in these emitters for different lights

The Osram videos are titled as Osram C8+ V1 & V2, to stop customers jumping on AliExpress bypassing me.

The V2 runs on a fet driver so Convoy won’t sell it under warranty

I just saw this light today. Searched BLF and there are only two mentions of it sitewide. I agree PM1 maybe makes more sense, but it still maybe the most desirable Lumintop in recent times… except it looks like a FET driver. Wonder how that’s gonna work out

EDIT: Also, hold for off UI. Well they sure do know how to eff something up don’t they.

The X1L has 8 AMCs and no FET. For whatever reason they were unable to just modify the FW21 driver accordingly and still run Anduril, and the X1L uses a different MCU that isn’t as easily reflashable.

I put a FW21 Pro driver in mine and flashed it with Anduril, using the 219C config. Much better that way, and the LED seems to handle it very well. You can get the driver from Lumintop’s AliExpress store for 8 USD.

Good pic, not sure “slightly” is the correct phrase. That Osram LED looks useless for anything other than a laser pointer!

Great info. Thanks! Wish they could get it right the first time, though.

With the FW series the only thing lumintop is getting right is their checkbooks.

Ordered some new HHL532.TK tonight. Will compare to the CSLNM1 in a Jacob A60 when they arrive

Jacob A60 :slight_smile: ! OMG! :+1:

Jacob A60… Wow some BLF history right there.

Isn’t its reflector designed for an XRE?

Yes. It’s one of the last one’s available. It’s the Jing Ge or whatever version. Deep plastic reflector that’s very, very picky and honestly not giving the cd/mm it should. Based on frontal area, I’d expect around 300kcd. I think it’s more a reflectivity issue rather than geometry, but that’s pure speculation. I love the look and feel in hand of it though (not to mention the nostalgia). I love the aggressive knurling and the fat tailcap (which I’ve modded with a forward clicky). To focus properly it needs to have the spacer close to 2mm thick, so some non insignificant number of lumens escape to the sides. I’ve gotten a ringless beam from it though. Tight spot. Clean but large corona. Zero spill artifacts.

Yesterday I was adjusting the cslnm1 led of a Convoy S2 + that I bought a short time ago, since it was not well centered and also the height of the led with respect to the reflector was not correct. The change is impressive, the spot is now practically half and much more intense. Comparing and measuring the S2 + w1 now has more range than the M21C xhp70.2