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There are also numerous 6V automotive LEDs. And Nichia NV4WB35AM.

Ha! So my idea does work… Awesome work getting this open AND reassembled cleanly! :beer:

Do you really find the SC700 an EDC-able size? I personally set a soft cutoff at 26mm dia and 105mm length and a max of 28x120. Ideally its 23x95, personally.

The unique feature of Zebralight it is not just ultra lower moonlight but I think here more important is power consumption in that mode. loneoceans can you post measurements in that mode of your driver compared to ZB?

You say these had the lowest moonlight - how does it compare to the SC62(w)? Those are also pretty low. I know the newer SC64-series is a bit higher.

Famously a SC62w on reddit ran for over a year on the lowest moonlight mode, from a fully charged 3500mAh 18650.

They have the same specs so I would assume it’s the same guts in a different body. More recent ZLs have a higher moonlight and a higher power consumption, my H600IV draw about 1mA on the lowest level, it would not last as long as the MKII. To have very long runtime the components need to be carefully chosen to have very low power consumption.

Also firmware is very important to have very low power consuption. In that mode we have active CPU and we need to have very low consumption of DC/DC converter, analog part and etc. About DC/DC switching devices I find very interesting AN from TI.

Well there is Olight with build quality 2nd to noone and driver more efficient than Zebralight. Problem is they refuse to offer anything other than piss poor low CRI CW emitters. I’m so glad Fireflies is using the Lume drivers in their new series of lights. I bought 5 of the FF lights and am super happy with all of them. Finally these lights have regulation and can sustain a good amount of light and do it efficiently!

Though one thing I admire about Olight is their extremely simple and intuitive UI. I know some prefer the much more powerful Zebralight or Anduril UI but I never use those advanced features…

Olight with their marketing department second to none. As far as opening the lights it’s just as bad as zebralight. Then they’re dedicated to proprietary charging as well as cells.

I also can’t say I’m impressed with the constant practice of leaving plastic TIRs exposed. From the two olights I’ve had apart I didn’t notice anything special about the build design, even if the machining and finishing is done well.

Of the things I mentioned, it fails at good LEDs, BLF UIs and no glue….
…quite far from we could wish for.
That said, thanks for the mention. I was not aware that their drivers were so efficient.

Quick question to all:

  • Suppose I created a Lume X1 driver for a flashlight for DIY modification as a driver drop-in replacement, which flashlight target would be the most popular for all?

  • Another option is to work with a manufacturer to bring this driver to everyone in a flashlight. This is not quite up to me to decide since it depends on which manufacturer is willing to take the chance on a design like this. If this is the case, what does your idea specification look like for the flashlight (single XHP70.2? Triple or Quad 3535 in series? B35AM?) and which manufacturer do you think I should contact?

Thanks!

  1. I was thinking to get KR1 and after i saw this thread, i only want it (almost) as your setup. But for high power FC40 i’d might go with 21700 build like Firefliesor possibly Convoy...

  2. Which brings us to answer on your second question. Simon/Convoy is ok guy when it comes to buyers suggestions and requests but i’m not sure how hemight react to this request. Second, third and fourth that i could think of are Hank/Noctigon, Jack/Fireflies and Barry/Sofirn.

I would like to see the drop-in driver for FW1A. The problem is the availability. Is it still in production? If not, it can be made available again. In fact, there is a thread for another run for FW3A in select colors. It requires minimum of 100 orders. If lucky, we can benefit from this occasion. I would like to see FW1A in bare aluminum with Lume X1.

As an offering from a manufacturer, I would like to see it from Emisar/Noctigon. KR1 with B35AM would be nice. The modded KR1 with Lume X1 exists, too. This is my guess, but they have Nichia already in their lights. Perhaps, B35AM can be sourced without difficulty as well.

Most popular sizes afaik are 17mm and 20mm - fitting many 18650 and 21700 hosts respectively. Even something like the Texas Avenger “TA30 – 30mm series : Same as 22mm only larger silk screen basically. You can sand it down to anything between ~22mm and 30mm.” (from here) would add extra versatility.

At that point, a shared oshpark PCB and a parts list (bonus points for links to mouser/digikey/whatever) would get it into a few people’s hands (I’d try my hand at a few personally).

Beyond that, if you can get mtn electronics to sell them, that would be amazing.

This^. If someone could buy in qty and sell kits at equal/lesser cost than an individual can piecemeal, heck ya that’s a no brainer. MTN is the only one who does that already, and I don’t ever mind sending $ his way.

And I think Amutorch, Fireflies, and Hank/Noctigon are top targets IMO (no specific order). Simon/Convoy would probably turn it down for cost reasons. Sofirn I don’t have faith in for new ideas since their disregard for the huge interest in the ‘grandma/pa’ light djozz requested.

Amutorch does OEM stuff, and I really like some of what they do (great logo too ha). I think you’ve worked with FF before, so maybe they’re not a wildcard. FF is becoming a favorite of mine quickly with some of the things they are trying. Hank seems to only march to his own drum, but maybe this can be just enticing enough for him to bite.

I would love to see the FF E01 be upgraded to the X1 and a 144/B35 and an OLGA-M or Gaggione [edit: won’t fit :weary: ]blending optic. I’m about to buy one now in anticipation of it being possible soon. 30$ with coupon, btw.

As of now with the few options for series configuration triples/quads, it’s tough to say what would be most popular. Next comes the issues with driver cavity depth on popular ligths like the D4/FWxx. Single emitter side e-switch budget lights… SC31 and FC11? Wowtac A6? Can’t think right now what else is common here in that class.

PS: Brands on the periphery that I don’t think will respond but make nice stuff are Skilhunt and Rofis.

The Convoy S2+ is always popular due to cost and ease of modifying, but since it is a clicky, Bistro would be a better UI option. Power handling is also a concern due to the threaded pill.

For a momentary switch light, I think the Sofirn SP32 / Wurkkos FC11 look interesting and are reasonably priced. I don’t own either, but am considering getting one to try to modify as a host for another driver. From looking up some teardowns, both appear to have a fair amount of space in the driver cavity and an integrated LED shelf. Some consideration would need to be made for how to deal with the switch PCB, and whether to keep, duplicate, or remove the USB charging circuit.

I think the two lights might use the same driver form factor, although I think the Wurkkos has a simpler driver, based on runtime tests.

The Emisar D4 would be great with a driver like this, but it’s already pretty great, and Hank knows this, so I don’t know how interested he is in another driver. It has a very shallow driver cavity that would need to be deeper for that inductor.

FF would be among my favourities if not for their taste for heavyweight lights. I really loved their first E07 drawing. But then they took the advice to increase turbo time by adding thickness to the shelf and took it to the extreme. Some users loved the result but for me the light was ruined.

They haven’t sketched or made a light that I would desire since then. But I do admire how they are quick to follow the lead of others or lead the way themselves.
I wonder whether they could be convinced to make another line that would be more lightweight….

I was pretty stoked to read the OP. I’m not a hobbyist at all, so I’m probably alone here, but I figured I’d chime in just in case others are interested enough to actually make it happen. I only have 1 Anduril light, a D4v2, which basically just sits in a closet because it seems more like a neat toy than a tool. I use a ZL H600Fc almost daily for rock climbing, along with various ground lights, all of which I hate for one reason or another. Internal or proprietary batteries, tint, runtime, weight, whatever. The H600 is my favorite light, but I’m not a fan of the UI, and I’ve been waiting for an efficient Anduril light with a driver like this for a long time, particularly a 21700 version. Plus I smashed the glass within 2 weeks of using the H600 and it’ll be at least 12 weeks to get it back from China…

Anyway, I’d like to see a 21700 Anduril 2 right angle with the Lume X1. Basically an Olight Perun 2, but with a warm high CRI LED. Despite being a 21700, the extra weight of the Perun 2 is barely noticeable, especially if I’m wearing a helmet. I’d buy a Perun, but as with Olight’s other 9895K lights, it’s pretty disorienting while climbing. The FF PL47 Gen 2 was tempting, and I’ll probably get the Gen 3 if it gets an efficient driver. But it isn’t ideal due to the bulk and quad LED’s.

My perfect light would be a 21700 right angle single emitter, preferably built by Hank, and with the USB-C port in the threads like the K1. (No on-board charging at all if the alternative is a rubber flap.)

I’d also love a 21700 KR1 with the Lume X1. I think the light you envisioned in the OP would be the best Anduril light ever made. I actually kind of like the KR1’s metal tail switch though, but I’m sure I’m in the minority because a side switch makes more sense. Anyway, I enjoyed following the KR1 mod and the first Lume1 thread. Thanks for designing them. Seems like the future.

Is that aux board obtainable somewhere? I didn’t see it in loneocean’s projects on Oshpark. I think Lexel had similar ones but can’t find anything there either.
Those aux LEDs behind the optic look amazing!

Today I check and I see loneoceans has aux board file here OSH Park ~ Shared Projects by loneoceanslabs

While I can’t contribute to the technical discussions I just wanted to express my excitement when reading about a Zebralight size form factor, with Arduril 2, efficient driver and a low moonlight- truly a dream light. Fingers and toes crossed a manufacturer is found that can deliver on the dream