The info is there and I’m sure if you wish to dig for data and stats you can. Once you are fully informed you can then come to the same conclusion all by yourself.
I find this interesting, so I’ll take the ball. Hope it’s ok for the forum owner.
Well, this kind of data never covers everything that’s important to know, e.g. it does not show future incidents. That’s where my “presume” stems from.
It’s my decision if I’ll get AZ or not. That’s theory, it’s not on offer for my age group yet, but if it were, I would reckon I’ll survive Covid-19 with a better chance than a blood clot. That leaves the chances to get either of these aside, I’m fully aware of that. But it’s the way I’m thinking, and that has to be respected like anyone elses opinion, too.
I’m not from the area but i’ll try to decompose this:
safe - they probably can’t declare that until it is unequivocally proved that the deaths and other risks associated that appeared in people that got that vaccine are not related to the vaccine itself
effective - they conducted trials/tests/whatever and, as far as I know, they made the results public concerning the effectiveness of the vaccine on the SARS-Cov-2 virus / Covid-19 disease. So, if the vaccine it is out there, it certainly has effectiveness for what it was designed! Although it may vary from individual to individual…as everything else in this world :weary:
I guess the word “average” will lead to mistakes here!
I saw that in Portugal more than 1 million people were already vaccinated with 1 of the 3 vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna, Astrazeneca).
Around 0.2% (about 50.000 people) stated to have had secondary effects.
Since the beginning of the vaccination process there were deaths, but according to the information, they were not related to the vaccination process itself. So, this cannot be seen as averages when doing good or harm.
And there are also people that already took both doses and still got (re)infected (?), but as far as I perceived, the symptoms where not accute.
That is, unfortunately impossible, but in a perfect world, it would be the ideal solution.
BTW, I was going to place a question about the transmission from vaccinated people (that get infected after it) and other people, but then I went for a really quick search for some information and this is what I found:
German researchers have stated that the unusual blood clots can be treated with existing drugs, they found the same autoimmune issues as Norway did yesterday:
A short update …. I havent seen any improvement in a couple of months. Seems I am a ‘long hauler’ and may not get any better . Still suffering extreme exhaustion, muscle soreness and a constant case of brain fog, My walking and breathing have gotten better but Ive been doing breathing exercises 3 times a day and I can tell that helped. I think I am having more trouble than most because of the severity of my case. Apparently the longer you are intubated the more long term effects you suffer. From what I understand a lot of intubated patients dont survive more than a week. I was intubated 3 weeks. Had a ‘believer’ tell me god had a plan for me…… all I could think to say was I wish he had started a little earlier ……. BUT ……… its good to be on this side of the dirt and life is good… considering. Just a lot of Tv, ‘medicine’ and
I am so saddened to hear of your very slow progress, Hang in there. and thank you for taking the time and energy to drop by and relate what’s happening.
So sorry to hear that it’s still a battle for you, Coscar. From what I’ve read, you are indeed one of the fortunate ones coming off the intubator alive after such a long time. I wish our friend John Prine had fared as well. Keep up the good fight, I look forward to hearing from you.
Finally got this about 12 days ago, and today I can say it’s over. One of the easiest flu’s I ever had.
I got it from my mom, and she is over it too.
And I suspect she got it from a member of our family that is a heavy smoker (2 packs/day). He almost has no symptoms except for some slight coughs. Basically his lungs are pretty much &^$@ because of smoking, and there you go- he handled covid even better than we non-smokers did !
Did “regular” flus go extinct or something with all the masking and stuff?
I’m wondering if anyone can get a regular flu like was going around forever, and then be all like, “I survived the coroflu and all I got was this lousy teeshirt”, like it’s no big deal. (Which, like 2yrs ago, it wasn’t.)
It was first noted in Australia last year that they were not having the usual flu season. That repeated here through our winter. Masks, washing and distancing do work.
May I ask if you have been vaccinated already? I have read somewhere that some persons who had the virus before and still suffering from lingering symptoms long after they tested free of the virus yet had the vaccine suddenly felt MUCH better after vaccination. Doctors have theorized that the vaccine might have substantially “re-invigorated” their natural antibodies developed after Covid with the vaccine antibodies. Also it was reported that they would only need one jab only.