If you could only Buy One "Super Thrower"? (Under $400)

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If you could only Buy One "Super Thrower"? (Under $400)
BLF GT90
40% (12 votes)
Acebeam K75
27% (8 votes)
Manker MK35 II
3% (1 vote)
A Mod by Your Favorite Modder (please comment)
3% (1 vote)
Something Else (Please Comment)
27% (8 votes)
Total votes: 30
Edited by: Artiet59 on 04/03/2021 - 19:51
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Hi folks, Thanks for voting.

Im trying to budget for my first “super thrower”(??) and I’m looking for something with ONE sbt90 (or xhp35 or osram), over 100mm head size, and under $400, preferably under $350. That is why the Astrolux MF05 is not on here.

If you think something else fits the criteria, and is not in my poll (or it’s really close to making the cut), Please tell me! Id love to hear about it!

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You know I have a feeling that any day now, Simon’s gonna stick an SBT90 into the Convoy L6!

 

                                                                                             

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I know, I know.. But I’m thinking i may just save and go big, maybe. So, over 100mm head size probably. Although the L6 would be Awesome, bigger head then the K1 !

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Artiet59 wrote:
I know, I know.. But I’m thinking i may just save and go big, maybe. So, over 100mm head size probably. Although the L6 would be Awesome, bigger head then the K1 !

That’s so true and same here. The biggest I have now is the Convoy L6, XHP70.2, 4000K. I’m actually looking for a monster one that I can keep with the rest. Easy but not easy hehe.

 

                                                                                             

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MF05 and MT90 Plus.  I got my MF05 from the official group buy on this forum as soon as I could, and I got my MT90 Plus from Vinh, beam tuned and de-lens. The K75 is my back up. The TN2 is my back up backup. The K70 is my backup backup backup.

 

I waited for the 94 to arrive to get into BLF GT.

 

Budget? Maybe a used one will work?

Because I like big lights, my flashlightical views lean heavily toward both the extreme bright and the extreme heft.

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richbuff wrote:

MF05 and MT90 Plus.  I got my MF05 from the official group buy on this forum as soon as I could, and I got my MT90 Plus from Vinh, beam tuned and de-lens. The K75 is my back up. The TN2 is my back up backup. The K70 is my backup backup backup.


 


I waited for the 94 to arrive to get into BLF GT.


 


Budget? Maybe a used one will work?


SOMEHOW, i knew you would comment Richbuff, and i knew you would say the MF05. LOL. it is honestly why i put the note about it not being a contender in the OP, because of cost. Also, its just a little too big. Thank you ,though.

BUT, are you saying that the next runner up would the K75? not the BLF GT90? i ask because i know you are kind’ve an authority on these lights, since it seems like you have all the most badass ones.

thanks!

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Artiet59 wrote:

BUT, are you saying that the next runner up would the K75? not the BLF GT90? i ask because i know you are kind’ve an authority on these lights, since it seems like you have all the most badass ones.

thanks!

In all honesty the having had both as well the BLF GT90 in my opinion is a far better light sure it looks almost exactly like the other 2 GT’s in the set but why change something that works.

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Souichirou wrote:
Artiet59 wrote:

BUT, are you saying that the next runner up would the K75? not the BLF GT90? i ask because i know you are kind’ve an authority on these lights, since it seems like you have all the most badass ones.

thanks!

In all honesty the having had both as well the BLF GT90 in my opinion is a far better light sure it looks almost exactly like the other 2 GT’s in the set but why change something that works.


Thanks for the feedback! and i apologize i just had a hard time following,a re you saying you owned the k75 and blf gt90 ( i know you owned that one bc i saw you just sold it), and your saying the blf gt90 is a far better light?

I am torn between these two and having a hard time deciding. i kindve feel like the gt90 is the pinnacle of +100mm head throwers, especially with the sbt90.2, probably worth the $75 more over the k75?

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I voted GT90 but had both it and the GT70 and ended up keeping the GT70 as it goes nearly as far and the beam is more usable.

Can’t go wrong with an SBT90 – great led.

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Unno, I already got a pair of L2s that are box queens ‘cause I rarely have any need for that kinda throw, but if I wanted an Überthrower, it’d have to be one of the LEPs, like the Acebeam or the Wallmart or whatever’s the very-similar one.

Not the Astroluxen that have strobe/SOS/whatever (!?) right in the main selector. I wouldn’t get one of those just out of spite.

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If you can wait, the best deals are gonna be between black Friday and New years.

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zoulas wrote:
If you can wait, the best deals are gonna be between black Friday and New years.

Great point. Thanks!
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Thanks everyone for the feedback!

And i have been on a huge Nuetral white kick, and have seriously been considering the OG GT in xhp35 NW. I love my 4000k K1, and would love the GT original

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Artiet59 wrote:
zoulas wrote:
If you can wait, the best deals are gonna be between black Friday and New years.
Great point. Thanks!

By then something more “throwier” will appear and you’d wait for the next Black Friday!

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Artiet59 wrote:
Thanks everyone for the feedback!

And i have been on a huge Nuetral white kick, and have seriously been considering the OG GT in xhp35 NW. I love my 4000k K1, and would love the GT original

I might sell mine soon, haven’t used it much.

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AlexGT wrote:
Artiet59 wrote:
Thanks everyone for the feedback!

And i have been on a huge Nuetral white kick, and have seriously been considering the OG GT in xhp35 NW. I love my 4000k K1, and would love the GT original

I might sell mine soon, haven’t used it much.


Really? the NW xhp35 version? Im telling you, i have since ordered about 6-8 neutral white edc’s and a couple more throwers in xhp35 NW from Simon. I really am liking the xhp35 NW. I actually may prefer the xhp35 NW over some of my SBT90 throwers..

If thats what you have, when you are ready to sell, please PM me. I am interested.

Just please, not TOO soon, it’s been a busy month. LOL

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For a few minutes last year, the MF05 was on sale at your desired price. Black Friday week, somewhere around there. It was like midnight thursday night or something like that. Now, they kept advertising it at that price for hours and hours after they raised the price to over $400. But, from what I understand, at least one member snagged one for the advertised price, so we got that going for us, which is nice. But yeah, nov is a long way off and the GT90 is pretty schweet. Weighs 150% as much as more than the Manker, tho, but you have the ability to put in 8 cells. Which is great because it will make a more impressive shelf queen. Or double the run time if you actually use it. Win-win.

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Artiet59 wrote:
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Artiet59 wrote:
Thanks everyone for the feedback!

And i have been on a huge Nuetral white kick, and have seriously been considering the OG GT in xhp35 NW. I love my 4000k K1, and would love the GT original

I might sell mine soon, haven’t used it much.


Really? the NW xhp35 version? Im telling you, i have since ordered about 6-8 neutral white edc’s and a couple more throwers in xhp35 NW from Simon. I really am liking the xhp35 NW. I actually may prefer the xhp35 NW over some of my SBT90 throwers..

If thats what you have, when you are ready to sell, please PM me. I am interested.

Just please, not TOO soon, it’s been a busy month. LOL

I have the original XHP35 NW and also bought a new driver from Texas Ace to power a shaved XHP70, I also have the 4 cell short battery tube, and several custom made shims to play with the focus. Not really sure yet if I want to sell it, but give me shout out when you are ready. I may be just looking for original investment from the original group buy (Still much lower than what you would pay) + actual shipping costs.

We could talk about it over PM when you are ready.

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Just sold my GT which i converted to GT90 (More info here) to have enough funds for my first LEP.
I bought the Maxtoch L2K which member Chibim tested to outperform all LEP’s so far.
(More info here)

The GT90 is awesome and is one of the king of throwers, but its too big and heavy for any practical use.

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Kinda lost interest on traditional throwers now that LEP is valid choice. Don’t really like spill anymore. Too bad they are still mostly low cri/ugly tint and price ain’t friendly.

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I thought LEP was more like a laser beam (zero spill) whereas the GT90/94 thrower has a an entirely different beam profile and AFAIK has some very acceptable spill.

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Maybe after this pole is complete, it would be a good idea to do a $200.00 and less thrower favorite pole. Cool
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I voted for the GT90 but the GT70 is better for real use because of higher lumen output, in my opinion.
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Robin Dobbie wrote:
For a few minutes last year, the MF05 was on sale at your desired price. Black Friday week, somewhere around there. It was like midnight thursday night or something like that. Now, they kept advertising it at that price for hours and hours after they raised the price to over $400. But, from what I understand, at least one member snagged one for the advertised price, so we got that going for us, which is nice. But yeah, nov is a long way off and the GT90 is pretty schweet. Weighs 150% as much as more than the Manker, tho, but you have the ability to put in 8 cells. Which is great because it will make a more impressive shelf queen. Or double the run time if you actually use it. Win-win.

Hey! That is ALL great info, thanks!
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AlexGT wrote:
Artiet59 wrote:
AlexGT wrote:
Artiet59 wrote:
Thanks everyone for the feedback!

And i have been on a huge Nuetral white kick, and have seriously been considering the OG GT in xhp35 NW. I love my 4000k K1, and would love the GT original

I might sell mine soon, haven’t used it much.


Really? the NW xhp35 version? Im telling you, i have since ordered about 6-8 neutral white edc’s and a couple more throwers in xhp35 NW from Simon. I really am liking the xhp35 NW. I actually may prefer the xhp35 NW over some of my SBT90 throwers..

If thats what you have, when you are ready to sell, please PM me. I am interested.

Just please, not TOO soon, it’s been a busy month. LOL

I have the original XHP35 NW and also bought a new driver from Texas Ace to power a shaved XHP70, I also have the 4 cell short battery tube, and several custom made shims to play with the focus. Not really sure yet if I want to sell it, but give me shout out when you are ready. I may be just looking for original investment from the original group buy (Still much lower than what you would pay) + actual shipping costs.

We could talk about it over PM when you are ready.


Thank you, I appreciate this. I will pm when ready.
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Yokiamy wrote:
Just sold my GT which i converted to GT90 (More info here) to have enough funds for my first LEP.
I bought the Maxtoch L2K which member Chibim tested to outperform all LEP’s so far.
(More info here)

The GT90 is awesome and is one of the king of throwers, but its too big and heavy for any practical use.


I saw that, and almost sold 3-4 of my lights (that I didn’t want to sell, reason why I just didn’t) so I could buy your gt90. It was a great price even with shipping.

I just don’t know if an LEP is what I want. My buddy has the w30, and it’s incredible, but if I’m being honest, I think I’d use it less then a 20lb (lol) sbt90 thrower. Unless you are spotting something well over 500m away, the hotspot is so intense with those really good LEPs that it’s unusable IMO. Although, I’ll probably buy one eventually, lol.

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CNCman wrote:
Maybe after this pole is complete, it would be a good idea to do a $200.00 and less thrower favorite pole. Cool
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I voted for the GT90 but the GT70 is better for real use because of higher lumen output, in my opinion.
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Great idea, thanks cncman! I don’t know, I haven’t seen the gt70 for less then $200. But your right, becaus it comes in nuetral white too, which I like. I had the mf02s nw and sold it bc the xhp70 didn’t throw impressive, but I sure the head size of the gt remedies that since it’s almost double the size of the mf02
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IMO, LEP lights are like HIDs, they are niche products that are great to have as part of a flashaholic’s collection, yet not much of practical use in the long-term real world use.

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tatasal wrote:
IMO, LEP lights are like HIDs, they are niche products that are great to have as part of a flashaholic’s collection, yet not much of practical use in the long-term real world use.

I tend to agree, they are a great thing to show off to your friends but if you were stranded in the dark somewhere, I would take a “real” light over an LEP any day.

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Artiet59 wrote:
CNCman wrote:
Maybe after this pole is complete, it would be a good idea to do a $200.00 and less thrower favorite pole. Cool
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I voted for the GT90 but the GT70 is better for real use because of higher lumen output, in my opinion.
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Great idea, thanks cncman! I don’t know, I haven’t seen the gt70 for less then $200. But your right, becaus it comes in nuetral white too, which I like. I had the mf02s nw and sold it bc the xhp70 didn’t throw impressive, but I sure the head size of the gt remedies that since it’s almost double the size of the mf02

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Here are the results I have. Granted the Lexel driver is going to push the 70.2 to near its highest Lumens that most lights cannot do, so its not a fair comparison. But its doable. Wink

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Left XHP 70.2 ….. Right Luminus SBT 90.2.


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The led was from Digi-Key at XHP 70.2 5700K before dedoming.
The driver is 12v 8amp from Lexel with 5v power supply for pump.
Runs cool and only gets warm in warm weather.
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The dedomed Digi-Key XHP 70.2 5700K performed much better than the 6500K dedomed Mtn. Electronics led.
12V 8Amps on turbo
1.372,969cd
9,200lm
2,343m throw
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Specs for Luminus SBT 90.2 not water cooled.
3V 22 amps on turbo
1,829,513cd
5800 lumens
2700 meter throw
https://budgetlightforum.com/node/76083
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It is hard to beat the XHP 70.2 when driven hard. Wink
A lot has been promoted about the SBT 90.2, but the proof is in the beam shots.
When standing behind the two lights, I give the 70.2 my vote. Wink

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Artiet59 wrote:

Thanks for the feedback! and i apologize i just had a hard time following,a re you saying you owned the k75 and blf gt90 ( i know you owned that one bc i saw you just sold it), and your saying the blf gt90 is a far better light?

I am torn between these two and having a hard time deciding. i kindve feel like the gt90 is the pinnacle of +100mm head throwers, especially with the sbt90.2, probably worth the $75 more over the k75?

Yes I believe the BLF GT90 is a far better light and worth the investment over the K75 you get more cells so more shenanigans and a better UI, when I had the K75 I hated the UI the only acebeam light I have left and like the UI is the L16.

Artiet59 wrote:

I just don’t know if an LEP is what I want. My buddy has the w30, and it’s incredible, but if I’m being honest, I think I’d use it less then a 20lb (lol) sbt90 thrower. Unless you are spotting something well over 500m away, the hotspot is so intense with those really good LEPs that it’s unusable IMO. Although, I’ll probably buy one eventually, lol.

I would say take a look at smaller LEP’s the larger LEP lights are super fun but horribly impractical unless you are shining a mountain side for giggles.
I recently got into smaller LEP’s but since Canada has weird issues things having a Class 3B laser they tend to get refused and sent back so with somewhat limited options I picked up a Astrolux WP1 and boy is it a contender for something so small it has a very usable beam and very respectable amount of throw mine measured 355kcd~.

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