Agreed Don, Iâm not old enough to remember it but I know about it. But that was a 1 off vaccine.
This (covid) however is a bit different. It is mainly older people, 60+ that are at risk of death here (which is a smaller slice of the population) whereas smallpox affected anyone of any age. Even considering that, the death rate has to some degree been due to not enough beds being available with respirators and trained medics, and knowledge about it and this has changed dramatically now - and of course stupidity - like here in the UK transferring all those old people out of hospital to old peoples homes, where many perished needlessly. A good portion of those deaths could have been avoided if weâd been more prepared equipment wise, and knew what to do/not to do. Many died on beds unable to get on a respirator. I am not condemning the old here, Iâm getting that way myself, I am merely stating what I think.
Also, it hit so quick, whilst all our Governments chose largely to ignore the experts advice, largely down to âmoneyâ (which there is PLENTY of, just in 1% of the populations pockets) more so the loss of it for the monetary rulers of this world, who lets face it, run the world.
Forcing people to have 1 vaccination to protect them from a disease/virus (like smallpox) that kills indiscriminately as in any age is one thing, forcing people all to have multiple vaccinations over a lifetime to protect mainly the older section of society is well, more of an ask - as we are finding out now. Even knowing the facts a good number just donât want it for various reasons.
I think so long as the people at most risk have the vaccinations regularly, and we all remain vigilant going forward then it can be âcontrolledâ to a large extent. I hope and pray, anyway.
Of course as discussed above, this virus changes constantly - forcing the population to have 1 vaccination is one thing when/if the current vaccinations lose their effectiveness, where does it end, forcing the population of earth to have 20 vaccinations, 100 vaccinations? that simply is not enforceable, or for that matter doable - or for that matter ârightâ.
Finally viruses have a really good handle on how to get around vaccines, fascinates me how, but they do - you could end up having 100âs of vaccinations over a lifetime just for covid derivatives. Would be VERY different if it were just one jab, but I doubt very much it will be just 1.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00728-2
NEWS FEATURE 18 March 2021
Five reasons why COVID herd immunity is probably impossible
Even with vaccination efforts in full force, the theoretical threshold for vanquishing COVID-19 looks to be out of reach.
EXCERPT
âHerd immunity is only relevant if we have a transmission-blocking vaccine. If we donât, then the only way to get herd immunity in the population is to give everyone the vaccine,â says Shweta Bansal, a mathematical biologist at Georgetown University in Washington DC. Vaccine effectiveness for halting transmission needs to be âpretty darn highâ for herd immunity to matter, she says, and at the moment, the data arenât conclusive. âThe Moderna and Pfizer data look quite encouraging,â she says, but exactly how well these and other vaccines stop people from transmitting the virus will have big implications.
A Third of COVID survivors suffer neurological or mental disorders
âOne in three COVID-19 survivors in a study of more than 230,000 mostly American patients were diagnosed with a brain or psychiatric disorder within six months, suggesting the pandemic could lead to a wave of mental and neurological problems, scientists said on Tuesday.â
On a personal note today my oldest daughter and her husband got the first of their 2 Moderna shots (qualifying medical conditions) and my middle daughter got her Johnson and Johnson shot also today (an end-of-day use it or lose it vaccine shot at Walgreens ). Since my youngest also got her 2nd Moderna shot this week (essential employee) everyone in my immediate family (less our grandchild) has been vaccinated at least partially (my wife and I got our 2nd shot Feb 28).
Feels good, doesnât it? My wife and I each have both shots behind us. Hasnât changed things much. Still wear masks and keep our distance. Donât cost nothing.
Iâm happy to hear youâre getting the 1st shot Thursday .
Personally I wish that CA would hold off on getting rid of all restrictions so soon but I wish even more that other states would be more conservative on their openings.
Moderna here, nothing after #1; after #2 I spent 2nd day in bed with 101.7f fever. Next day tired butt no other symptoms. All good now.
Wife had no concerns other than shot location soreness for a couple days.
I basically had the same experience. 1st shot no big deal, just a sore arm. 2nd shot I had flu like symptoms starting in the evening but fortunately went away the next day. And my wife also only had a sore arm for a few days
My wife and I got the Moderna shot today. Very well run clinic. In and out in no time. I read today we are reaching a point where we will soon have more doses than willing people to get them. No where close to herd immunity yet so not good.
Not good for a second reason too: the rest of the world is desperate for those vaccines
I hope that with the first world using less and less vaccines in a few months time, the production stays in place or even ramps up to vaccinate all the less rich countries, and fast enough to force the remaining pool of coronavirus to become so small that new variants stop emerging. That is decent and to our advantage too.
). Since my youngest also got her 2nd Moderna shot this week (essential employee) everyone in my immediate family (less our grandchild) has been vaccinated at least partially (my wife and I got our 2nd shot Feb 28).
