Cheap, "pocket" thrower. Which one should I take?

1. It is possible to kill the LED if left on too long, as is the case for any LED without a thermal limit. 50°C is the limit until it’ll get too hot to hold, it can handle much hotter than this so it’s not an issue unless you leave it going unattended. Nothing to worry about, it’ll be too hot to hold long before it’ll damage the LED.

2. On the Convoy page for the ramping driver it says 4.5-6A, but this is incorrect. The battery is what will limit the current (amps), so it’ll depend on how good the battery is as to how many amps it’ll run at. With your 35E battery it won’t reach 8A, but might be all you need and it won’t get hot as quick.

3. The driver is configurable to whatever brightness you set it to, so runtime will be based on that. Yes, 24 min is an estimate based on 8A, but your 35E battery will run at maybe 6A so it’ll be longer. Keep in mind that at 100% it’s not continuous because of the heat, my measurement is just an estimate. Using the Samsung 30Q it achieved 2 hr 20 min at the 30% level.

4. Simon makes some of them, but I always take it apart to make sure the LED is centered, screws are tight, and install dual springs. I assemble some of them as well depending what the customer wants. I’ve started using the Osram green in the Convoy L21A at 6A for 1.6km range, it’s very impressive.

Make sure you get Simon to install a high current spring in the tail cap. Also make sure you’re happy with the driver UI. The last picture explains the UI

Same one, yes. That was taken with my old camera so it’s not showing distance that great. This video is better, but keep in mind that using it on a farm is going to limit the range majorly. Using it on buildings will reflect more light, but using it on green grass, trees etc on a farm will reflect less light. I can see out to 550m

@PiercingTheDarkness
I hope he understand what I wanted. Maybe he guesses that you recommended it to me :slight_smile: I wrote him to confirm if he will install high current spring in tail cap.
That’s what I asked and reply which I got.

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Ramping driver look good, not very diffucult after configuration. I have every light (Skilhunt H04, Sofirn IF25A, Lumintop B01, Convoy S2+) with different control so I will have one more to remember :smiley:

Simon doesn’t waste words. :smiley:

Yes :smiley: That’s why I asked him again to be sure :slight_smile: is it possible that he can think about other high current spring, no this one which Funtastic mean?

I think he got it straight.

I have the m21a with cslpm1 6a, and for the price (or any price) it is one of my most impressive smaller lights - amazing performance and value. But it’s not pocketable and I have tried, and I pocket carry the copper KR1, but the 44mm head is just too big with the length of the m21a. So given that, I would say the m21b would be the best if you are trying to pocket carry. Or, I have heard great things about the s21b with CULPM1 6a driver, I pocket carry the s21b with xhp50 and deep carry clip with no problems. I am hoping Simon does the s21b with cslnm1 at some point too.

@PiercingTheDarkness
I ordered this configuration but I have one more question. Will be LG HG2 too strong for this flashlight and I should take Samsung 30Q or should be good too? As I think Sony VTC6 is too much?

Sorry, I don’t have either of those to know. I have used the same configuration in the L21A using a Samsung 40T and it was only 8.4A which is fine. I think the driver may have a limit at just over 8A

Simon said me that more power won’t burn led so I think I’ll go with Sony VTC6/LG HG2 because it’s easier to get these than Samsung 30Q.

I will be running 30T & 40T batteries so will let you know if I have any problems with the high drain cells. Just got all my gear so will put it all together tomorrow.

later

I couldn’t get higher than 8.4A I think with a 40T. The driver must have an 8A limit.

Received my new order from Simon and they no longer have a bypass but a good high current spring. Finally they’ve exhausted their old stock

I’m very happy with a cheap Convoy M21a with Osram led. I chucked it in my cart as it was so cheap like $25au & it’s kinda shocked me how good the fit & finish on it is. Really smooth precise threads etc. 4 mode UI is a bit funny but ok when used to it. Pretty much as good light as my Olight Warrior-X-Turbo that cost 5x the price despite being heavily discounted. Only thing about the M21A compared to the C8’s is I can’t seem to find remote pressure switch’s for them, where they are sold everywhere for the C8. I think the M21A would be a great rifle light but can’t seem to find the remote switches sadly which is a shame.

I’ve been off for a while and also haven’t yet delved into Convoy lights at all.

How does the C8+ compare to the GT mini and FT03 which are both typically available for around $30 with codes?

Make one. Ask Simon for a spare tail cap and get a remote switch, easy as. I only use the C8+ since the M21A won’t fit the standard 1 inch rings

I’m want to get a couple of these factory C8 customs, they sound awesome! Just one question kiwi, my M21A has Osram CSL’P’M1 emitter (which I really like) is this much different to the CSL’N’M1 that you recommend in these C8 builds? Do you have an idea what the difference would be? Thanks

Great advice I shall. Does Simon have an account here or contact him through Convoy store?

Roughly the same range, the NM1 is just narrower and runs at 5A max. The PM1 is running at 8.4A (depends on the battery). The PM1 is preferred since it’s a more neutral tint and wider beam, whereas the NM1 is quite cool with a hint of blue. Both are used in my hunting comparison video titled Osram C8+ V1 & V2.

I install dual springs into the remote switch, but it knocks back 300-400 lumens due to resistance. The NM1 is superior in this case with only a 50 or so reduction. Remote switch can’t do much over 5A-6A

https://budgetlightforum.com/user/30339

@Rat
Have you tested it?
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I will get Funtastic build tomorrow and can’t wait to test it. Bought 2x Samsung 30Q to have the same like Funtastic have.
If someone want buy there is a link to Simon store.