The 219C 4000K FW3A I bought measured 4022K, DUV 0.0058, CRI 90.3 at top of ramp
The SST20 4000K FW3A measured 3975, DUV –0.0003, CRI 95.6 at top of ramp
At lower output they are even more green. That’s why I was so disappointed because the pics I saw of the 219C were rosy. I’m wondering if Lumintop have different batches of the 219C.
Even the SST20 4000K is not that nice. It was the FD2 bin whereas Fireflies uses the FA3 tint bin that is a good bit rosier. Fireflies was recently able to procure the even rossier FA4 tint bin. I’m wondering which tint bin is Lumintop using now. I really want to know before the group buy coupons expire.
I’m talking about the FW3A I bought when it first came out. Not the FW3AA. I’m contemplating on whether to buy the FW3AA 219c 4000k because I’m afraid it would turn out the same with the high DUV.
I went for some new tests with the batteries I mentioned that were not working in mine flashlights (Vapcell Gold and Vapcell H10, both unprotected button top).
I also measured the inner tubes of both flashlights:
4000K host: 54.51mm
5000K host: 54.54mm
After this I put the cells in each flashlight, well tight, and guess what? They worked !
BUT the springs on each driver, due to the button top, suffered slight bents!
So, I would still advise NOT to use (long) button top batteries that exceed the recommended length. As comparison, the other button top that worked without length issues was the Sofirn cell, which measures ~48mm.
Thanks my friend I am happy that they work well with the unprotected flat top, I will use the flat tops only, though, beacause of the pressure on springs. And I do recognize that these inconsitencies lead to some disbelief.
I will tell that a Ti version would be cool, but you’d have to throttle the temperature max down, otherwise it will burn hands, as these small lights get HOT as F!!! :smiling_imp:
In my case, I would set the ceiling to 400 lumens… and the thermal protection to 35C… I have zero interest in Temporary Turbos
I do like that this is a Tiny Triple, but the finnicky battery issues, shorted out ground wires, and questionable switch sensitivity, do not make me want to open my wallet.
Also, I would greatly prefer AA compatibility… and I dont see that happening soon.
At least with a titanium or aluminum version you can hold it by the tail when the head becomes burning hot. With a copper version, you’d need to bring an oven mitt.
I’d like Lumintop to make a version of the FWAA with LM10 styling. That would give a bit more mass for heatsinking, be titanium and have trit slots.
My sample works fine with all my existing flat-top 14500s which is good enough for me. I don’t have the grounding issue, but know how to fix it if I get one with it. My switch is too sensitive, but that’s a normal problem for FW series lights. The o-ring mod didn’t help on my sample, but I may end up trying to insert something else in the switch to see if I get any better results.
This light is too cute not get in titanium. :heart_eyes:
I continue to be ridiculously impressed with how small the DQG Slim AA is. Still love mine. Thanks for comparing them side-by-side, you’re the first I’ve seen to do it.
Nice Do you like it?
Would you be able to take some comparison photos between your FWAA and other lights with different Leds?
It would be nice to know how it compares
First, in this flashlight the “optimal operation” concept would be getting the highest possible output.
For that I would suggest the Vapcell H10 INR14500 1000mAh 3.7V 10A (purple), unprotected flat top. It is available in Vapcell Store (AliExpress) and through nealsgadgets.com .
You could also get the Shockli IMR14500 1050mAh 12A (orange), unprotected flat top. However this cell doesn’t seem to be available currently.
I am happy that they work well with the unprotected flat top, I will use the flat tops only, though, beacause of the pressure on springs. And I do recognize that these inconsitencies lead to some disbelief.