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I appreciate you, Artiet59 and Boro. Based on how things were looking here, I didn’t really expect anyone to agree. It was really just for my sanity and for those that are truly wondering about Fireflies. But I’m glad it turns out that I’m not alone in feeling this way.

definitely, I couldn't agree more really. And in terms of FireFlies position in the ranking of best brands at the moment, I don't see how they aren't at the summit of that list in terms of design at least. I'd like to see more reliable availability but I get it, the world is weird right now.

after further inspection my e12r and one of my e07x has gritty threads, and one e07x has perfect threads. And until I checked tonight I had no idea my e12r had gritty threads, bc it doesnt effect my experience at all with the light. I have been raving about my e12r, with gritty threads and all, for the last month. I didn't know about it and now that I do, I still wouldn't think to mention it to people when recommending the light, because it really doesn't even fall in the top 10 most relevant things about the light. That's how I look at it.

Fireflies, Emisar/Noctigon and Convoy are tied for 1st in my book. Lumintop and Sofirn are a really close second. I have no experience with astrolux/matreminco yet but I will soon. Everything else is either pure garbage or too expensive, or I haven’t tried…
I haven’t found another company where you can get 3-5k+ lumens for so cheap and have good build quality.

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It’s ok if you don’t think Fireflies is better than other lights, I do and their performance has proven it over and over to me.

So many people were taking shit about Fireflies that some might get the impression that no one holds Fireflies in high regard, so I needed to rectify that.

@Artiet59 explained how his new FF made his other lights feel outdated, that was VERY much my experience also. Last thing on my mind was some threads that aren’t even supposed to be used anyway.

Some people are super quick to leave a bad Yelp review over the dumbest shit. I’m not like that at all. I always appreciate people’s effort and can understand the difference between something slipping through the cracks, and something being deliberately trash.

If a chef worked hard to make me a great meal and one thing ended up less then perfect, I would not throw away everything about the whole experience to shit and pile on the one mistake. I have far more respect for peoples work than to be so publicly petty to try and hurt their business.

Fireflies has put forth a tremendous effort in getting enthusiasts lights that truly excite. They have amazing anodization, aesthetics and excellent efficiency on top of emitter options to drool over. Compared to Fireflies, I can’t get onboard with what Hank has been doing lately. If the light isn’t trying to leap forward, why would I bother with it? His brand new 8 emitter E21A light puts out a whopping 1700 Lumen. Twice the size of the D4v2 yet only 500 Lumen more? I honestly don’t care how awesome his threads are, that is flat out mediocre to me just like the K9.3 is. If that’s your thing, more power to you and Hank. As for me, I will enjoy FF continuing to push the envelope on lights other companies wouldn’t even dare to make.

1000% Bro, threads don’t even affect the “flashlight” functionality of the device. It’s like me saying I don’t like the flavor of Coke because I like the threads that Pepsi uses on their bottles instead. I’m just like WTF???

The E12R looks SO SICK next to the other lights. Almost like a light from the future. The others look super nice too, but there really is something about the E12R that makes it look so tight. I carry it as much as I can but you’re right about the E07 being easier to pocket.

I agree, the aesthetic appeal of the E12r is on another level! It’s a beautiful light.

I like my NOV-MU. It has very nice LEDs with decent output. I also like the fact that it has an efficient driver that can sustain high output even with a near empty cell. Anodization is also nice. Very strong magnet is a plus.

But there are some things that I would like to see improved. Bare aluminum threads with poor machining is one of them. I understand that the threads has to be unanodized so that it is compatible with the clip, but there are ways to get around it. See KR4. Quality machining and smooth operation are very important to me, especially cosidering prices FF charges for their lights. I wish FF correct it. This issue comes up quite frequently because the same problem persists across multiple models.

Allow me to add a bit of perspective. The KR4 is a rear button flashlight, so the back threads/button área need to be right, for it to work right. On the Fireflies, none of them are rear button.

On the Fireflies, you’re also not supposed to open the tailcap except to swap clips if anything. So to Fireflies, they may not see the need to fix something that’s not really supposed to be being used anyway. That’s like insisting that a carton of milk or a box of cereal be easier to open from the bottom of the container because people want to know that it’s easy to open them from underneath if they ever decided to, it’s just not that compelling an argument to be honest.

I guess what I’m trying to say is this. How about you guys just open the flashlight from where you’re supposed to open it? You guys might enjoy your light a bit more if you’re not hyper-worried about dormant threads. If this makes me a crazy person, then… :slight_smile:

They both use the rear clip yet fireflies lights have grindy, unannodized aluminum threads.

Fireflies has excellent lights this generation. They’d be flawless if they had better QC, a better moonlight and better threads which are significant.

The E12R’s tail threads were not so good so unless I wanted to experience the grinding, I had to use the head threads.

The head threads were also not so good. They’re so thin, and coupled with the E12R’s relatively large and precarious head, as well as the need to apply a significant amount of pressure due to the stiff springs meant that I was worried and had to be very cautious every time I changed a battery to avoid cross threading the head.

This made me dislike the light and forced me to use the usb-c charging every time which is rather convenient but I still want to change batteries without worrying I’d break the light with one wrongly tilted turn.

This was a significant issue to me with fireflies lights and not something I worried about with any other light.

Changing the battery from the head of the D4V2 is not a good experience because you have to push down pretty hard. The E12R is like that but so much worse, and you can’t even use the tail threads on the E12R while the D4V2 has very smooth tail threads.

I’m just not that worried about it. But if my light does happen to break, I’ll be the first one to come back and tell you you were right.

In the meantime, like I do with all my lights when changing a battery. I will take my time, I will be careful and I won’t be reckless. If it’s such a big concern for you, I suggest you do the same too and you’ll probably be just fine.

The one saving grace is you can turn the tail cap a few revolutions to ease the compressions the springs are under, making it easier to screw and unscrew the head.

Looking at Luminus SST-20-W 4000 K CRI95 color and output test - #179 by djozz

I think the emitters are FA4 after all. I should test turbo, but haven’t bothered because the colormunki is spewing some bs garbage that sensor is oversaturated and refusing to measure

Odd considering it has no issues with 180k lux from the C8 a year or two ago

To anyone who has threads that are problematic on any light. I have a solution that I am pretty sure will help. First clean both sides of threads then put rubbing compound or polishing paste on one or both sets of threads. Might be a good idea to remove gasket. Then proceed to screw in and out. When done clean and test. Hope this helps.

Hmm, never thought of using polishing compound.
I might have to try it.

it really does, I did not expect to like it as much as I do. Between the e12 and E07x, FireFlies is my go to for edc in as many situations as possible.

the d4v2 doesn't have a captured clip though, and if I'm not mistaken ( I don't have mine on my right now) arent the threads anodiZed? So comparing the two isn't apples to apples.

Also, I've read others worried about striping the head threads of e12r.. I don't see how. Just go slow, and even when I'm not paying attention and talking to someone whil changing the battery I've never come close to the feeling that I was going to strip threads. And if I was I would do a 1/2 turn backward to properly seat the threads before proceeding the correct way to tighten the head. I don't know, I guess I'm willing to take that into account because the rest of the light is so good.

also- I have had KR4 (my favorite light) with pretry bad tail cap threads too.

has anyone heard anything from Jack or FireFlies about when he will be listing more e07x pro's? i'm specifically interested in xpl-hi. My biggest regret is i bought 2 in sst20, and didn't get one in xpl-hi before they sold out..

If anyone is interested in trading i have a beautiful red e07x with sst20 4000k, that i have Never Carried. just fyi lol. i would want either xpl-hi 5k or 4k.

I have an e07 with xpl-hi 5k to trade, if you are interested.

the first version or the new "E07x pro" version?