Meet the Maxtoch X PRO : the new single-cell "King of Throwers" of 2021

Maxtoch only used meters in their ad, so I showed my measurements (based on the candela numbers I got: 776,000 cd)

Its priced at $139 without any discounts.
@Artiet59, ah cool. I can't remember if I saw that or not. But yes, although not reaching its claimed distance, it's definitely a great thrower. Still have to do the runtime test etc..

Will see how it compares to other single-cell throwers.

Although I understand the point of "what can you see at that distance" but measurements are still the best way to show the difference between lights.

I really like the look of that thing with the black on red theme. There is a resemblance to the K1 though. Boost HL onboard, so i believe the rating.

Does this Maxcock employ the Osram CSLPM1-TG emitter?? How many metres is the new Astrolux EA02 rated for on paper spec sheet…1600ish meters? It’s reflector is roughly 56/7mm diameter and quite deep. The Max looks to be a great light but I get pissed off at my Olight Javelot Turbo & Warrior-X-Turbo as combined they were over au$500 yet my EA02 is just as good quality, performes better, has Anduril, I can choose what cells I use, can run a short tube 26350 & cost me $69!! I’d give up either Olights before the EA02 to be honest. Hopefully Maxtoch can justify its price.

This is the Boost HL, the 4040 1mm² size white flat. Can be driven harder with higher cd²mm. The EA02 has the Boost HX, the 2mm² version of the 4040 size white flat. More lumens, less throw.

The EA02 is only rated for 1369m, but falls short.

Maxtoch won’t ever drop their pricing because it messes with many bypassing the local dealers. Their pricing used to be very low a few years ago, but increased everything to be fair.

The X Pro has the CSLNM1

Keep in mind that the EA02 uses a Fet+1 driver which is inferior to constant current used in most Maxtoch models. The EA02 turns purple with a too high amp cell, so gotta be careful of that.

Astrolux has poor customer service and next to no warranty from Banggood, so you need to take all these things into account when comparing prices

Their website photo in the description says it’s a CSLNM1 though

Maxtoch target hunters for mounting on rifles, so pocket carry isn’t what they had in mind

I edited it in my reply with his quote :slight_smile:

Yes, I’m aware, but that’s up to him now

Interesting red crenulated bezel ring there.

Hey, it's been a decade and people are still a) complaining and/or b) not understanding the 2009 ANSI-NEMA FL1 ratings. Really? It was never perfect from the start but at least it's a standard that works across brands and models for comparison on basic numerical merits. Still have to interpret them with a little real world experience and consider all of the influencing factors. Maybe our enthusiast community could cobble together an update of alternatives for the standard. For candela, perhaps bumping it to one full lux instead of one quarter of a lux? I think we've been lucky that the majority of light manufacturers finally got on board with the standards - getting them to adapt to changes might take awhile, causing confusion or disappointment in the market until everyone is homogeneous again.

Anyone know how I would calculate that? For the ANSI rating I do square root of candela x 2.

It's calculated. In order to take a good picture of an object that far away, you need 3 things:

  1. Iceland clean air
  2. A camera with good lens and tripod
  3. A photographer who knows how to take night pics.

Look it up because I might be wrong but I think it's measured candela divided by the standard (.25 lux), then the square root of that. Changing it to 1 instead of .25 seems to give roughly half the value on the couple I ballparked. I actually think changing the standard might be helpful to consumers but I wasn't paying much attention when all of this was being discussed and I can't find a free copy of the actual testing standards (ANSI and ASME don't give away anything for free). I don't know if there's a chance changing the value could affect very low-powered devices in a negative (marketing) way or what other aspects might really matter and caused them to decide upon this seemingly worthless value of one quarter lux.


The ol' light wiki: https://flashlightwiki.com/ANSI-NEMA_FL-1

I'll read through this one later because it looks like some discussion to chew on without having to wade through a million posts on CPF: http://www.led-resource.com/ansi-fl1-standard/

I think the Maxtoch X Pro is interesting enough to deserve its own thread, so I started a new thread to discuss ANSI throw compared to visible throw

Good stuff Dave1010!

Thank you

Maxtoch X PRO vs Noctigon K1

Maxtoch X PRO vs small LEP flashlights

See the thick Blue/Yellow line

Maxtoch vs large LEP flashlights

See the thick grey line

ChibiM- thanks for the info!

question- In the K1 graph, is the "x" axis supposed to represent "lumens" or "candela? It's candela, right?
Thanks!

ChibiM - thanks for the very nice review I found on 1Lumen.com.

Unless you have an obsession for owning the best, brightest, etc, light, there is a small matter of the price. Maxtoch focusses on selling their lights to hunters, who value functionality over looks and price. But for me that price is just a bit steep for owning yet another wow-light. Slap in a green Osram and lower the price and I might be persuaded.

Translated quote of Fokke en Sukke:

“I see that it performs extremely well my dear fellow, but does it also work in theory?”

And I repeat once more: lux measurents are a direct measure of hotspot brightness and as such it gives you the same information of the real life throw distance that your eyes will give, but way more accurate (eyes suck at estimating brightness).

What will also affect real life performance/usability of a thrower is hotspot size and tint, beamshots can provide that extra information, but how bright things light up in a distance is purely determined by the throw number, as measured with a luxmeter.