Wanna Ask Some Questions About EBL Batteries

These days I want to buy some batteries. :sunglasses: And Some friends told me EBL batteries is very useful and recycling. :wink: And I want to know your opinions about EBL batteries. :stuck_out_tongue:
And of course you can recommend other batteries you like. :+1:

long story short: NiMH (price to performace) king is standard eneloop.
pro: highest voltage under load, low self discharge, most charge cycles before you can’t use them anymore
con: capacity is less than others, price is bigger (but worth it), charger needs to be intelligent (dV/dt) for them to last
if you use the batteries a lot and want reliable performance, get these.
there are rewraps, such as Fujitsu NiMH and IKEA LADDA.

EBL have a big dispartiy between claimed performance and actual performace (= lies).
Marketing makes them look cool and “eneloop but cheaper” but they don’t last.

https://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/CommonAAcomparator.php
http://aacycler.com/

EBL: Short term > cheaper, they’ll ‘work’, and they won’t last.
Short term cycling reviews, and Amazon reviews in general are pretty worthless for most NiMh. Some of my batteries with the highest marketing claims, have had the shortest life.

You want good,
or you want cheap? Cheap is tempting, which is why they are in business.

I’ve been using some aaa’s in some lumintop tools I use in homemaid lanterns; they last about 24 hours(on low) with a constant run of 12 hours each nite. 5 charges later they are doing ok.

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Currently about a year into 8 AAA and 4 AA EBL batteries. The AAAs are holding up pretty well and have roughly claimed performance. Only AAAs I have right now that will run my E02 II. Made in Japan Eneloops and IKEA re-wrap Eneloops no longer can maintain the current to run that light. The eneloops work OK in a Ti3, although not as bright. If the EBLs last another 6 months with the ability to deliver the performance they are now, I will be completely satisfied with them. Actual eneloops are 2.6x more expensive and it looks like the EBLs will deliver for at least 1/2.6 as long so I don’t have a problem with them.

The AAs are a bit of a different story. They are performing pretty much identically to the Japan made IKEA 2450s. However they are labeled as 2800s. Am happy enough with the performance at this point in time although have not used them nearly as much so not confident at all. Don’t like the fact that the label claim is bogus. (The AAAs deliver their 1100 mAh.) At this point none of my AAs are any better but the EBLs are the only ones that claim to be.

Bottom line is that I think they are fairly decent cells. Most likely a solid value but as has been mentioned not the finest available.

Sophiaxiong, are you asking about NiMh or Lion batteries ?
I have some Lion EBL 18650 and 18500 that was purchased before knowing better not to.
The 18650 3000 mah weighs 43g vs a Samsung 30Q at 48g and checked 2500mah.
Another problem was leakage after moderate usage of one yr. Lifespan is short, made in China.
Also purchased some AA NiMh that did not last one yr due to leakage.
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Buying batteries is something you will need to research here on BLF to get accurate answers before buying. :wink:
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Hope that helps some.
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There is a lot of info here if you search for it.
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I got a bunch of EBL 14500s, and one had a mysterious leakage after my cat knocked down a light containing one.

Very surprising, but happily no earth-shattering kaboom.

"Some friends told me EBL batteries is very useful and recycling."

I'm glad they're concerned about the environment!

@Sophiaxiong

Welcome to BLF !!!

some of their stuff is ok.
some is overrated junk.
forinstance their 26650 5000mah i bought a while back are testing around 5200.
but some folks bought 18650 3000 that barely broke 2000.
and ROFLOL! at the aa 2800!
around 2300.
about the same + - lot variations as their 2300!
with as many analysing chargers in the average joes hands as there are today you would think this silly game would be over!

BLF’ers may have that impression. I think the reality is the vast majority of people don’t have a clue. Look how many requests come in on a routine basis about analyzing chargers. There is progress in this direction.
OTOH, many people are just fine with a basic charger, maybe even kind of intimidated by chargers that are more complex.

I got into Lithium 9V rechargeable EBLS about 3 years back when I was looking at a 9V Alkaleak that had leaked badly and killed a Fluke Multimeter by leaking all over the board. I jumped into EBL AAA and AA later when they had a sale on them for dirt cheap. I have been happy with the 9V lithiums but not the AA. Enloops and Ladda are good to go, unfortunately they don’t make 9V rechargeable. I had 3 EBL and 3 Eneloop AA in a device together. 2 of the EBLs died after a second charge and won’t recharge. The 3 Eneloops and 1 EBL still are working. I’ve never had that occur with an eneloop and I’ve been using them a lot longer.

Bottom line for me, the AA EBLS, when sold at dirt cheap, appear that they cost more than Eneloops when looked at for the long haul. BTW, as an aside, as Henrik noted in his battery tear down, if you have to us an alkaline 9V - Duracel Alkaleak 9v are better build and less likely to leak than the competition. Surprising given that the AA and AAA Alkaleaks they put out leak before they come out of the package at times (that happened to me once with a Costco Duracell purchase).

Fujitsu makes Eneloops and owns the factory, technology and patents.

Panasonic makes their own version of ‘Eneloops,’ in China, for the Asian/Oceania markets.

Stay away from them.

Chris

How can you tell the difference between Japanese Eneloop and Panasonic?

Unfortunately, usually have to read the label. On some sites they may deliberately NOT reveal the information or show the label properly. You also can’t trust site reviews as the actual product may have changed or the reviews may not be for that specific cell. Amazon has hoards of crap reviews like that.