Side-switch flashlights

I avoid sideswitch lights.

For non tactical use, I prefer no switch anywhere, just a rotary ring.

if I Must have a button, I like it on the tail.

“Cop Grip” aka “Ice Pick” grip, is a Tactical hold, intended to be used for bezel strikes in CQC… with lights that have “tactical” bezels, aka DNA samplers…

when combining a flashlight with a pistol… the light should have a Tactical Tail Switch (raised button), so it can be used in a modified cigar grip… pressing the button against the knuckles of the pistol hand:

here are a few more Tactical Flashlight grips to support a pistol. They all rely on a tailswitch, and an ice pick grip.

in the past, maglites were used in an icepick grip, thumb on the switch… This made the body of the maglite into a striking baton. Now flashlights are too short to use as a baton, but the same ice pick grip works for bezel strikes.

For non tactical use with a tailswitch, I often use my index finger, instead of my thumb. And then I dont require a raised button.

This.

It’s not rocket science.

For sideswitch lights hold them switch up with your palm gripping the body tube and your thumb on the button. The head of the light faces forward near the top of your hand. Like you see in pretty much every picture of someone holding a sideswitch light. This gives a secure grip with instant access to the controls with your thumb.

Sure the optimum way to hold a sideswitch light is not a “tactical” grip, but sideswitch lights aren’t “tactical” anyways.

If you want to hold your light head-down in a tactical grip, you’re better off just using a light with a tail switch.

Firelight2……

I surmise he’s referring to holding it head high or higher which then makes a side switch awkward to operate with the thumb on top. Rotating the flash 1/4 turn to the left assuming right-handed allows the thumb to easily operate it from the side and as mentioned above rotating again puts the thumb directly under the switch. How a rear switch then somehow comes into play with a pinky IDK.

All this notwithstanding even if ya held the flash just as the manufacturer intended (switch pointing up) and way over your head then your index finger would naturally replace the thumb and the thumb would support it from underneath instead.

Someone thinks this IS rocket science. :laughing: :open_mouth:

How a rear switch then somehow comes into play with a pinky IDK.

—- i think he meant using CopCarry with a sideswitch, then your pinky is near the head of the light, where the switch is

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Why would a cop put his thumb behind a tail cap when there isn’t a switch there to begin with?

copcarry w tail switch: thumb on switch

copcarry with side switch: pinky on switch (awkward)

and vice versa

“Why would a cop put his thumb behind a tail cap when there isn’t a switch there to begin with?”
—maybe to hold it better in case he had to bean a Bad Guy with the light (ie not for the switch)

ha
what i do is ‘wrong’

i have a tail switch light
but i use it in several UnCopCarry modes

usually i just turn it on and adjust mode, then go to Opposite CopCarry mode, where a side switch would be better, but i don;t have a side switch

or cigar mode, between index and middle finger

Seems I intended to post a second reply but didn’t get around to it, or the data vampires ate it mid-send. Oh well.

Using the pinky to press the switch is not very smart. The pinky is made for scratching ears, flagging good tea and pressing Ctrl on the keyboard, not for applying force :stuck_out_tongue: Try using your ring finger next time, it’s much easier.

Like a boss

We seem to be going round in circles a bit here. We could do with some diagrams and shared terminology.

From what I can tell much of this depends on the preference to hold a light either at waist hight or head hight.

How’s this for naming? What other ones are there?

  • Waist height
    • Remote control grip, thumb, very common (e-switch)
    • Upside down grip, forefinger (e-switch)
    • Cigar grip (tail switch)
    • Awkward pinky grip (tail switch), with heavier lights
  • Head height
    • Ice pick grip (tail switch)
    • High pinky grip (e-switch)
    • Pen grip (e-switch)

I like to hold mine like a lightsaber and pretend I’m a jedi so sideswitch all the way for me!

Maybe we should get more creative in the naming! :smiling_imp:

  • “Upside-down three-armed monkey grip”
  • “Reverse mutant elephant grip”
  • “Baby duckbilled platypus grip”

Those are all good ones. But let’s just keep it simple when it comes to Grip Terminology. :white_check_mark:

  • 1. Handshake
  • 2. Tactical
  • 3. Cigar

*4. Unorthodox
*5. Catholic

:black_small_square::+1: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :beer: :black_small_square:

temptation for you, and me:
FWAA Ti

I just hold them in my :raised_hand:. If I ever get crippled things may change…then I’ll come back to this thread for some inspiration.

I am right handed, but being ambidextrous I hold with my left and us my second finger to run the switch. I find that my left hand has better dexterity for rapid clicks on most switches. I also carry on my left side as knives are clipped into my right change pocket or normal pocket. Tailswitch lights are also easier to operate with my left hand. Once on, I tend to wrap the whole hand around the light, either left or right. I think this explains my love of larger tube lights 21700 and 26650 format.

‘mic style’

I hold my side switch lights the proper way. :sunglasses: Any other way is improper. :smiley: