I see, so the L21A is the one as far as biggest head, which is the smaller diode? and its advantages and disadvantages?
im just looking to add a thrower to my current collection convoy M3c and sc321pro EDC. however this new Convoy 3×21a triple light variant got me thinking would it have more light (flood) and less range due to smaller reflector? or would the high throw fc40 diode balance it out?
+1 for this^ what is your goal? Just to have a thrower? Then I would start with the C8+ with osram, cslnm1 and then you will have an exceptional, inexpensive thrower to help determine what you like /dislike.
cslnm1 is smaller than CULPM1 , cslnm1 throws further, but less bright, theoretically less heat too. That's debatable.
Both of these osrams are smaller leds than the sbt90, so they have much less lumens and do not throw much further though. Reason why sbt90 is so expensive, it throws like and osram with lumens like an xhp50.
of everything you mentioned, for a first thrower m I'd go C8 with osram or L21a with osram, or sbt90 4x18a.
My first "thrower" Was ft03 with xhp50. I still think it's a great contender.
there's a lot to learn, kindve. I'd say spend less, see what you like (pencil beam & more throw, wide spill and less throw, or both and pay $50-$100 more for sbt90), and buy accordingly. Lol
interesting, yeh initially I was tossing up between those two you mentioned, c8+ osram vs l21a osram and what the difference is. but than I read there is a new L21b which is better? i also wonder if convoy would produce the awesome new usb-c charging Convoy 3×21a is 3x osrams? lol right now they have it in sft40 diode. how does sft40 compare to the osrams?
you did say if I wanted throw and a wider spill to go for sbt90 but doesn’t the 3x21a kinda fill that gap of offering 1029m range plus the spill of 3x lights? without the overheating and bad battery life of an sbt90, sweet spot I’m guessing, correct me if I’m wrong
that means picking up a charger, and opening the light up everytime and charging battery, doesn’t that mess up the cap threads overtime or atleast loosen it up? USB-c just seems so much more convenient you can even charge it in the car on the go without taking out the battery. lets just say for a second I forget the usb charging thing.
The CSLNM1 is "brighter" than the CULPM1. Even though it's less lumens it still has more range which means the NM1 is brighter or more intense at any given range. The PM1 has just got a wider beam. Lumens mean very little without also looking at he range spec
Wait for the L21B with adjusted focus for the Osram LEDs. This shouldn’t be too far away.
I’ve tuned the focus myself for all my NZ customers and I get 1,500m with the CSLNM1, and 1,350 using the CULPM1. If you go for the green CSLNM1 I get 1,700m
The L21B was made for the purpose of hunting at my request. It needs to be able to mount on a rifle, the L21A is far too bulky. The L21A with cslnm1 is out of focus and peaks at 1,300m, but with the culpm1 it’s okay at 1,325m
I prefer to use dedicated chargers so that you can keep an eye on battery voltage and internal resistance. The C8+ with CSLNM1.TG option is extremely good value for money.
Get a LiitoKala Lii 100 Charger, or something similiar; that is fairly low cost. It is one bay & will work just fine in your vehicle too
Yep, you have to unscrew the tail cap to remove the battery, that takes about 5 seconds.
And no, it will not “hurt” the threads. Or at least I have never had that problem.
Of course keep the threads clean & lubed, as well as the O-ring(s).
As far as the difference in those two Osram emitters, that has already been explained.
As far as the Convoy L21? models. I cannot answer that, I do not have one “yetc.
Listen to what Funtastic has to say about those. He abviously know his stuff & has practical experience with them.
yeh that seems to be the most recommended, however ill wait for the comparison by Funtastic. btw why is everyone recommending the c8+ is it due to the law of diminishing returns going with the l21a nearly twice the price with not much gains?
I wish there would be some video review on the 3×21a that thing has a 1029m range, and I’m imagining the spill to be pretty good given the 3x sft40 combination? not to mention the long battery life. USB-C charging? what’s not to like? I know its a little more expensive than the other two (c8+ and L21a/b) but damn its ticking all the boxes. but I wont buy until I see some proper reviews and beam shots comparisons, too bad there aren’t any yet…