Best Convoy Thrower?

You might light the SFT40 instead if it comes back in the L21B, currently Convoy have pulled it from their store

hey, best thrower I’ve had from Convoy was M21a with green osram led. I had it at the same time with L21a osram and it was really competitive. So what I propose: ask Simon to make L21a with green osram led. I’m gonna ask him too.






OK, good info; thanks. :white_check_mark:
That’s a shame Convoy didn’t wait on your measurements for proper focus…

I’d suggest waiting for L21B’s focus to be fixed since it out throws the L21A.

Green CSLNM1

L21A - 1,560m
L21B - 1,700m

yes I will wait for that, however id like the white color light.

also a note about the BLF favourite c8+, why do people not recommend the m21a instead? i mean its 2 dollars more but it supports a bigger battery.
see here > its 2.2 usd difference for a bigger supporting battery, on nearly identical size flashlight

m21a with battery 21700 5000mah

C8+ with battery 18650 3500mah

so isn’t it a no brainer to go for the m21a if one was not going to buy a compact thrower?

I prefer the C8+ CULPM1 with Ramping driver which runs at 8 amps. I get 977m, but no thermal regulation

I’ve never used the M21A as my customers are hunters and the C8+ fits the standard gun mounts. It’s a solid choice for others though

could you please tell me more about this ramping driver, what does it do, no thermal regulation, what are the downsides of that?

Here

No thermal regulation = leave it on and it’ll potentially kill itself from overheating 90°C + . Requires manual control to reduce brightness.

Not true ramping, it’s a config menu you can enter and change the brightness of the first and second level to whatever instead of preset levels.

The M21A can’t fit this driver

wow interesting, I would view this as something for more advanced users for total control, thermal regulation does seem like a good safety net though. i was just on the convoy store and I see the m21c with CSLPM1.TG (wider head 55mm) for the same price as a m21a CULPM1.TG (smaller 45mm head, same as C8+)

nice pics man, white is what im after, however the m21a is looking very enticing atm, its my top pick until i see some reviews for the L21B that everyone keeps talking about.

Great advice, I will definitely do that. :white_check_mark:

I’m not crazy am I folks? Do you see a cross pattern in the hotspots in the wall shots above? I thought I was seeing similar features in my B158B zoomie with 1mm² Osram at certain focal lengths

Yeah, I can vaguely see it. :white_check_mark:

Based on experience fro my my last camping trip, the green Osrams seem to penetrate through smoke and hazy air much better than white beams.

OK, now here is the problem with getting a thrower just to have 1 in the collection. Once you get a thrower that can throw 800 meters, it might likely be the case that you then just get bit by the bug these light saber throwers induce. Next thing you know you are climbing the thrower lust mountain in search for ever higher lumens thrown ever farther away. The incrementally further throwing lights then get used, while the former long thrower occupies a lonely space on the shelf. Wash, rinse, and repeat. Soon you end up at the limit for what you find tolerable as a price for any single light, and all previous throwers become shelf queens. For many, myself included, it might be better to just bite the bullet and get a K75 to start. That is the one I mention, because it is the next super thrower in my lustful sights for purchase. I can’t rightfully explain my desire to have lights capable of shining in someones window from a mile away, but it is an evolving lust that needs satisfying. It is not like I need a light that would work well out the door of a search and rescue helicopter, but if there ever is such a need, I will be prepared. I can always have it just in case a local highschool football stadium looses their stadium lights. Welcome all to the rabbit hole that flashlight collecting becomes. I say skip the preliminaries and just go for the big fish…it will be cheaper in the long run.

i am not like that to be honest, i buy what i need, i understand some get the bug though and it becomes an addiction, i will only have one EDC (purchased), one search light (purchased), and now im looking for one thrower (pending). the only reason i would get a 2nd of any of the mentioned category is if the first one breaks.

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Wow, nice pics protechteus :+1:
You just convinced me to use the green osram led in a new titanium build that is under construction.
I was going to use the white osram, but man, the green has almost no reflection and gets deeper into the woods. :sunglasses:
Thank You for sharing !!

To me it seems pointless to get a thrower that will illuminate details at a distance, when you cannot see the details due to the distance.

I’ll settle for a beam that gives me a wider field of view at the limit of my vision, thus eliminating any interest in an LEP.

Mind you I’m new to this, so I reserve the right to change my mind. :slight_smile:

I think this is generally a good mentality if practicality is your goal. This is why I think the sft40 l21b is exciting to me in a bland way. No frills but a super useful beam and usable at any range. LEPs are great if your looking through hi mag optics, but largely useless with the naked eye. 1mm² Osram makes great sense for compact lights up to the ‘tactical’ ~40mm bezel class, esp if 1*18650 is all that’s pushing it. 2mm² kinda begs for a 21700 at 6.5-7A, and before the sft40 it was the only high luminance option for larger than c8 sizes using a single cell IMO. 90.2 ‘throwers’ are cool, but until you get to at least a 4x18a in host size and battery supply, they are toys imo. Personally I consider reflectored 90.2 designs as ‘searchlights’ rather than ‘throwers’. I would love to see a collared aspheric 90.2 light in the size range of the 3x21a or mf02s if I wanted a high lumen ‘thrower’. Sft70 will be an interesting in between in the future.

I get it…try watching a bunny rabbit hop around @1700mts…lol