Coronavirus **personal experiences** thread

Reading statistical data well and getting the correct story out of it is something only a few can do well, it is not easy. The majority needs someone who does that for them.

Some people who do that have an agenda and present their own wrong story.

Some of the majority who can not read data wrongly think that they can and make up wrong stories.

Some of the majority who can not read data themselves listen to the people who made the wrong stories.

It is a matter of avoiding the agendas and trusting people who really know statistics.

But about own experiences: last friday I had my first Moderna shot :slight_smile:

I’m late to the party for my age group in my country because initially I declined the invitation for the jab because this spring I took part in a phase3 trial for a different vaccin (from Curevac) and taking the “official” jab would end my contribution to the trial, and I like to be helpful. But two weeks ago, the preliminary results of the Curevac trial showed a rather low effectivity for contracting Covid (less than 50% protection from that), so we were advised to take the regular jab on top of it. The protection that Curevac gave to hospitalisation and death was much higher by the way (over 90%), so I did not take life/death risks it appears :slight_smile:

I realise that we are in a luxury position in the EU, and wished that everyone in the world had access to good vaccines right now (and not next year or even later, like some parts of the world :frowning: )

Any side effects, djozz?

My mother and I had a sore throat for weeks, something that is not documented apparently. Otoh, her MD told her that this was typical for B/P in his experience. A mystery.

Btw, I have full protection since Jul 1st. Throat feels almost normal now. Second shot was 16th of June.

So what happened to India? Anybody here know?

With all due respect, I completely disagree with everything you have said.
Each of your statements are highly subjective.

We have done nothing but present a more balanced discussion.

Trying to impose your choices on others is what is dangerous & irresponsible.

Anyone is free to choose to take the Vaccine or not.
For you to impose your choices & beliefs on those people is 100% intrinsically wrong.

To imply, or in this case just outright say; “not getting the vaccine is irresponsible, and dangerous, to self and others”…. is just wrong. :frowning:

Everyone is responsible for their own choices. You are, I am, everyone else is.
None of us can impose our choices on another.
Simple as that…… :white_check_mark:

+1

I do not intend to put fuel on the fire but I would appreciate to learn more about the statistics of the UK Public Health article. I hope to reading more information on that matter to assess better what to believe or trust in and what not.

I’m sure you’ll find enough information on the net, but let me recommend you an article in the Spektrum:

Thank you Unheard, that is very helpful information. :+1:

Some pain where the shot was given, shifting down a bit over the day (probably the vaccine stuff spreading in the muscle). In the evening and next day light nausea and general not feeling well.

It was the same for the Curevac shots back in March and April.

Last updated: July 06, 2021, 08:20 GMT

331,449,281 / USA Population

~ 621,335 / COVID Deaths

0.18746005 / % of USA Pop. Died

In simple laymans terms.

As of the above date in the USA there was a 0.18746005 % chance of catching COVID & dying with it.

That, as of the above date; is a 99.81253995% chance of NOT catching & dying with COVID in the USA.

Those numbers are simple FACTS. Draw your own conclusions. :white_check_mark:

If memory serves correct, the first COVID case was officially diagnosed in the USA about 17 months ago.

. I’m going to get my first dose, Astrazeneca this thursday. My superior asked me today whether I want to get vaccine or not. I said I won’t if it’s Sinovac. He quiet for a while and use his phone called to somewhere and later he said O.K. you can have Astrazeneca. Hmm, lucky me.
. While other country trying to use more efficient vaccine, my millitary government still buy and use Sinovac. Medical staffs who work on the frontline hot only Sinovac and now they infected by Covid delta but the millitary government still not give them any better vaccine and try their best to protect Sinovac’s name and ignore thise Medical workers. Dammit! You know, I don’t mind if I have to fight like Myanma righ now.
. O.K. on Thursday I will see what they will give me. If it’s Sinovac, I won’t let them inject that shit into my body and I might give a kind friendly smack to my superior. lol

well, I feel the same way about your opinion, so, now that we can agree that we disagree, how about we stop trying to argue, convince, or explain why our opinions are what they are.

Visualize Whirled Peas.

why do you insist on misusing this thread to discuss controversial facts that we have been asked to Stop sharing, here?

which part of this do you not understand? or do you simply choose to be noncooperative because you feel an uncontrollable urge to share your opinion, here?

Raccoun saying 99% of the deaths were from the unvaccinated is so off the mark that i tried to correct it by showing that in UK it’s less than 50% . You certainly don’t bother with his, just mine . As for the pleasure in this thread, stop bullying and it will be better .

This is the map of the new infections in NEPA. Shutting down nicely
Edit: No new deaths reported.

Welcome to the ‘Cancel’ culture ……… why cant we all just ‘listen’ and think objectively…… beyond that, any disagreement is futile.

It would be interesting to see maps of other areas of US and compare them to the vaccination % of that area. In Pa 50% have 2 shots and 63% has 1.

How’s that possible?

Why not?

Because it would be 113%.

Or do 13% have only one shot and 63% at least one?