I can’t remember how bad they were. I know the 5790 when sliced basically down to the phosphor, the angular shift was fixed and the overall tint was very nice for a daylight cct. 4000k never got much attention, likely due to impossibly high duv. I might just need to refresh my memory.
Not really much of a mod, but I have to share. I put a Zircon 803 filter in an SP36 with 4000K LH351Ds and got surprising results. I’ll just let the data speak for itself.
The zircon 803 has a 20% lumen penalty
the benefit is the DUV went negative… congrats on that
for reference, could you also post the same light without the -green filter?
what I like about the SST is the high R9… but I dont care for the green tint
the Lee filter keeps the high R9, and improves the tint… similar to the way slicing the dome of an LH351d does. But the LH351d is not a 90+ R9 CRI LED… and the green tint is as bad as the SST…
so I just ordered an SST light… though I may still mod to 219b, instead of using minus green filters.
R9-R12 are saturated colours and were all not part of CRI because CRI represents how natural colours look, not how saturated. They are important for good lighting though, and with leds the R9 (saturated red) is always the bottleneck so that is the one mentioned.
With the Zircon 803 installed over the LH351Ds, R9 came in at 96 as you can see in the data above. That’s what I found most impressive since the LH351D typically comes in around R9 60-70.
I’ll retake measurements without the filter when I get a chance.
I generally see +10~20 pts of Ra with 803, 5~10 with 804.
This LH351D 4000k with +24pts is indeed significant but don’t expect it to always be that high.
Of course, it’s not really increasing the output of R9. Rather the filter is just reducing the output of all the other colors so they match the R9. Result is in a CRI test, R9 rates higher.
Filters do have some disadvantages.
Expect output to drop significantly. Sometimes close to 20%.
Expect color temperature to drop. Sometimes 500K or more.
Do the filters last forever (like for several years), or does their effectiveness change with time (even when not in use) or from using the light for hours at a time?
Doesn’t it also diffuse the beam some reducing the spot intensity?
Maybe i’m wrong but I always told myself that was the tradeoff I disliked the most. Narrow beam angles and reflectors generally have the most need for “adjustment” but also the biggest impact from filtering so it really is unfortunate if that is the case.
apparently the CRI test does not show that reduction, it seems to rescale all the bars higher, not lower
that does not mean the comment is wrong, to me it means the CRI test is faulty. Because the test makes the filter look good on paper, but not in my reality.
from my personal experience with Lee minus green filters, they make the illuminated area Look like there is a Pink wash over everything … I really dont care for them, at all. They are, to me, just a cheap plastic toy to play with… I do not take them seriously, and would not want one on a light I consider valuable or special…
and yes, the lumen penalty is another reason I lose interest in filters…