Coronavirus **personal experiences** thread

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What I’d like to know is why are all these threads permitted in the first place —Is this not Budget Light Forum —Lately all these BS topics are popping up more than actual Flashlight threads —- If you don’t want this kind of crap to happen —Ban these BS threads

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Fair point. We do have an off-topic section of the forum, since a lot of people here share a lot of other common interests. But the same rules apply to all sections and topics discussed here, including avoiding controversial subjects and not fighting. Normally something that has anything to do with health and treatments would be banned under the BLF rule #3 of no controversial subjects. However, an exception is made for this particular thread given that it’s an issue that has affected basically the entire world population and probably 100% of users here in one way or another. It’s still possible to discuss personal experiences revolving around the coronavirus without getting into controversial political and health related aspects of it; that’s all that I’m asking of users. Of course, if this thread continues to generate more controversy and ill will than it does friendly conversations then it will be closed.

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Apologies. I must have missed to read this update. :person_facepalming: I have immediately removed my previous links and texts about compulsory vaccination in Tajikistan.

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Well… my personal experience with Covid-19 is that it sucks getting it. But, it sucks getting a flu also. Sucks getting a cold, really.

Me and my side of the family are all into sports, nature and healthy lifestyle. I train since I can remember, my father also. My mother is into cycling. Even my grandmother (88yo) was surprisingly vital for her age. We all spend a lot of time in nature. We have absolutely no medical issues; no heart problems, no high blood pressure, no history with overweight/obesity, no alcohol and no smoking.

Wifes side of the family are… well, her father takes his car to go his neighbour that is 200m away. They were never into sports or practiced what you’d call a healthy lifestyle. They all have medical issues, are a bit overweight and overall in poor shape (excluding my wife).

And yet… my family (including myself) all had serious problems with fever, high temperature, pneumonia, loss of taste and smell, headaches and eventually my mother and grandmother ended upo in the hospital. My mother is still recovering and has a hard time breathing when she’s active. I can feel the lack of “air” when swimming or doing conditioning/cardio. Grandmother passed away.

Wife’s fimily had no major problems, few days od elevated temperature and some random ills. Her brother and sister had no symptoms. Her grandfather (88yo) recovered in no time.

We all got Covid-19 from the same source, none of us were vaccinated and we all tested positive.

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That is a part of the CV that I personally find both interesting & strange Mraz.
CV “apparently seems” to negatively affect mostly older people and those with health problems and/or comorbidities the most. BUT yet there are those with one foot already in the grave from other causes that have little problem with the CV, if they even catch it at all.

And then there are others that from all appearence & evidence are the picture of health, some even young; that the CV gives a very hard time. Even ravaging some to the point of death. :cry:

“To me”, that is one of the strangest aspects of the CV.

I have a lifelong friend who is a Biologist & researcher in North Carolina. He & I were talking about this aspect of the CV many months ago.
His, and a few of his peers; “hypothesis/theory” was that this could possibly be to an unknown genetic problem/defect in those, even the young & apparently healthy; that made them more susceptible to CV & problems with it.

And conversely, the old & not so healthy who did not catch CV or had few problems, if they were even infected; did not have those genetic problems/defects.

Of course he stressed this was just a “hypothesis/theory” that had NOT been proven or even researched, as far as he knew; at the time of our discussion.

To me it will be interesting to see if any explanation of this is ever found.

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With so much research going on, they are bound to find explanations on why some are susceptable to serious COVID and others are not, but as it often goes in biology, the cause may not be as simple as one genetic marker, more likely a unlucky combination of many risk factors may be found.

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Makes perfect sense. :+1:

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not vaccinated! sad
and how about masks? did you get covid while using masks, or not using masks?
and why No vaccine, because of personal choice, or because it was not an option?
In what country do you live?

Very sorry for your loss of your Grandmother… and that you all got sick

an increasing number of the cases, and deaths Im hearing about here in USA, are also unvaccinated people.

there is some suggestion in the info I receive, that the severity of the illness may be related to the quantity of virus the person is exposed to.

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Thanks a lot for sharing your experience Mraz, really sorry to hear about your loss and all the aftereffects.

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We got Covid-19 from a family member that returned from abroad and tested negative (two times). My kids actually got it from him and spread it since both families watch them while I work. Luckily, kids had only mild symptoms; one day fever and running nose for a few days (3.5yo and 5mo). Masks are mandatory and we all kept our distance, family members excluded.

Since this thread got heated up more than few times over the “vaccine” part and since everyone (myself included) thinks his choice is the right choice I’d rather not engage in discussion about it but I’ll answer your questions.

Short story is that (at that time) hospital was full of people needing respirators, vaccinated ones included, and since most of my friends who got vaccinated developed side effects we decided to trust our immune systems and let others be guinea pigs for test vaccines. It’s also what our friends who are medical professionals did, and we trust they know more than we do about the subject (two of them work in infectious disease centre and have first hand experience with Covid-19 since day one). So yes, it’s because of personal choice.

To clarify one thing, my grandmother didn’t die of Covid-19, but of an gut bacteria she got in the hospitil while treated for Covid-19.

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Thanks for sharing Mraz. My experience with covid is similar and suggests to me (in my small sample population) that the symptoms are genetically tied. The healthiest people did not necessarily have the mildest symptoms. I know 6 or 7 close contacts that were positive. The pattern was this. Same infection source + different bloodline = very different symptoms. Different source + close bloodline = nearly identical symptoms.

The disease has two phases. The viral infection is first and is not what most die from. It lasts 2-6 days typically. This is the period that feels like the flu to most people. Treatments for the first stage are few, and must be started early to be effective. HCQ and Ivermectin are two that show great results, but the nature of viral infection is tough to reactively address. What happens next is what drives the serious and bad outcomes. It starts fairly regularly on day 8, and is when hypoxia and other serious symptoms can take hold. It’s believed and has evidence to be related to widespread inflammation caused by a type of autoimmune response. Treatment with steroids, antihistamines, and even some SSRIs that also have anti-inflammatory properties show great efficacy according to many frontline doctors who’ve bravely battled covid for the last year. Ivermectin has been shown to reduce morbidity in this stage as well.

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There is a fallacy that should be addressed. Surviving COVID19 doesn’t make you immune to it. A person who got COVID19 early on is now vulnerable to the Delta variant. The Delta variant is much more virulent and death rate from it is higher. Original COVID19 was transmitted in aerosol form. Delta is AIRBORNE and a person who walks through a store without a mask, coughing, talking or laughing, leaves a trail of virus in the air for anyone else to breathe… for HOURS.

Meanwhile the percentages of people who get a vaccine and do not contract COVID is very high. Hospitals are reporting that those people coming in with symptoms indicate they did not get the vaccine.

Not getting vaccinated makes for an opportunity for COVID19 to infect you. Surviving it is a “crapshoot.” Even some very healthy young people have ended up dying from it, or ended up with severe symptoms with chronic conditions. So being in the “best survival demographic” isn’t a guarantee. The Anti-vax belief system takes a few exceptions and tries to treat them as far more prevalent. It’s ignorance to not consider the actual percentages outside of your own experience.

I still wear a mask in stores. It’s truly a minor inconvenience and well worth it. And I’m trying to avoid stores where many people have ditched their masks. I was just out in Eastern Long Island (NY) and while stores like CVS and Stop & Shop have “mask required” notices at their front doors, like half the patrons inside don’t have masks on. In some cases it’s “COVID fatigue” but others are simply believing the virus isn’t a problem anymore because of disinfo or personal experience. And sadly, the virus is not yet done—states with low vaccination rates are suffering spikes, like Florida.

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I had zero reaction to my J&J vaccine… Im over 65.
the nurse that gave me the vaccine, maybe in her 30s, warned me to expect severe pain in the injection arm (which was her reaction), that would prevent me from sleeping on that side for days.

one of my daughters, in her 30s, fainted a few minutes after her J&J shot. She was fine after that.

I heard somewhere, that younger people have stronger immune systems than senior citizens, so people with strong immune systems can develop More Severe reactions to the vaccine… this is supposedly a good sign, that their immune system is fighting hard…

I dont know…

as to immunity after getting covid, my Stanford Biology daughter tells me that it would be best to add a vaccination, after having had covid… the protection is greater

I respect that people do what they do based on their best intentions
I also agree that a corona test can be negative, when the person is asymptomatic. Unfortunately, testing negative for corona is not a guarantee. Sometimes the test wont be positive until 5+ days after infection.

This is why my Biologist daughter, waits a week to get tested after doing anything risky, like, eating indoors at a restaurant, or attending a crowded parade.

I hope everyone continues to stay safe, wear masks, and get vaccinated. In my experience, Unvaccinated people are at higher risk than Vaccinated people. Plus Unvaccinated people put others at risk. Especially now that the mask mandates are being lifted. There is no way to tell by looking at someone, whether their mask is off because they are Vaccinated, or it is off because they decided to gamble on their natural immunity.

There is a difference between what is good for self, that only affects self. When I make choices that put others at higher risk, then we are facing the issue of social responsibility, not individual liberty.

imo, unvaccinated people, especially those not wearing masks, should stay away from Senior Citizens. Going to hospital is dangerous, and people die of things they catch there.

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What about the people (there’s lots of them) that wear their mask below their nose — How does that fit into being a responsible individual

There was guy in the Auto Parts last night —he was serious — he had a double filter rig on — ready to paint a car

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Given that the nose is the main entry point for infection (with the eyes probably in second place) and one of the main sources if you are infected, if you are wearing your mask below your nose you may as well not be wearing it in most cases. If you are talking or singing aloud a mask below the noise would still be better than no mask, but still deficient compared to a mask covering the nose.

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Infection rate around here is way down. Being vaccinated I feel confident going unmasked. Are your areas still high and that is why you are so concerned about masks?

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No matter the responsibility, people with masks below the nose look ridiculous. And they have ugly noses
That is a personal experience. :stuck_out_tongue:

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My county in Alabama has a population of 102,238.

Last 14 days it looks like we had 35 cases.That appears to be down from the previous 14 days.

No one seems to have died.

I think I read a little over 30% of the population have had the CV Vaccine.

Still see a few people wearing masks here & there, mostly by elderly people & POC.

For the most part things seem pretty much back to normal… at least at the limited places ai frequent.

Mandates have all been removed.

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In my country there is still a mask mandate indoors, the rates are still high but quickly decreasing thanks to most of the population vaccinated. People who are registering now are getting the Pfizer vaccine because of increased supply and a large donation (thanks USA!).

I understand that in the US there is no longer a mask mandate and most stores don’t longer enforce mask wearing, but regardless of mask mandates, if you are wearing a mask for extra protection to yourself or to protect vulnerable people, you should wear it correctly, otherwise it will do next to nothing. The coronavirus is partly airbone and has been airbone since day 1, it’s not a new development.