Coronavirus **personal experiences** thread

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7675

not vaccinated! sad
and how about masks? did you get covid while using masks, or not using masks?
and why No vaccine, because of personal choice, or because it was not an option?
In what country do you live?

Very sorry for your loss of your Grandmother… and that you all got sick

an increasing number of the cases, and deaths Im hearing about here in USA, are also unvaccinated people.

there is some suggestion in the info I receive, that the severity of the illness may be related to the quantity of virus the person is exposed to.

7676

Thanks a lot for sharing your experience Mraz, really sorry to hear about your loss and all the aftereffects.

7677

We got Covid-19 from a family member that returned from abroad and tested negative (two times). My kids actually got it from him and spread it since both families watch them while I work. Luckily, kids had only mild symptoms; one day fever and running nose for a few days (3.5yo and 5mo). Masks are mandatory and we all kept our distance, family members excluded.

Since this thread got heated up more than few times over the “vaccine” part and since everyone (myself included) thinks his choice is the right choice I’d rather not engage in discussion about it but I’ll answer your questions.

Short story is that (at that time) hospital was full of people needing respirators, vaccinated ones included, and since most of my friends who got vaccinated developed side effects we decided to trust our immune systems and let others be guinea pigs for test vaccines. It’s also what our friends who are medical professionals did, and we trust they know more than we do about the subject (two of them work in infectious disease centre and have first hand experience with Covid-19 since day one). So yes, it’s because of personal choice.

To clarify one thing, my grandmother didn’t die of Covid-19, but of an gut bacteria she got in the hospitil while treated for Covid-19.

7678

Thanks for sharing Mraz. My experience with covid is similar and suggests to me (in my small sample population) that the symptoms are genetically tied. The healthiest people did not necessarily have the mildest symptoms. I know 6 or 7 close contacts that were positive. The pattern was this. Same infection source + different bloodline = very different symptoms. Different source + close bloodline = nearly identical symptoms.

The disease has two phases. The viral infection is first and is not what most die from. It lasts 2-6 days typically. This is the period that feels like the flu to most people. Treatments for the first stage are few, and must be started early to be effective. HCQ and Ivermectin are two that show great results, but the nature of viral infection is tough to reactively address. What happens next is what drives the serious and bad outcomes. It starts fairly regularly on day 8, and is when hypoxia and other serious symptoms can take hold. It’s believed and has evidence to be related to widespread inflammation caused by a type of autoimmune response. Treatment with steroids, antihistamines, and even some SSRIs that also have anti-inflammatory properties show great efficacy according to many frontline doctors who’ve bravely battled covid for the last year. Ivermectin has been shown to reduce morbidity in this stage as well.

7679

There is a fallacy that should be addressed. Surviving COVID19 doesn’t make you immune to it. A person who got COVID19 early on is now vulnerable to the Delta variant. The Delta variant is much more virulent and death rate from it is higher. Original COVID19 was transmitted in aerosol form. Delta is AIRBORNE and a person who walks through a store without a mask, coughing, talking or laughing, leaves a trail of virus in the air for anyone else to breathe… for HOURS.

Meanwhile the percentages of people who get a vaccine and do not contract COVID is very high. Hospitals are reporting that those people coming in with symptoms indicate they did not get the vaccine.

Not getting vaccinated makes for an opportunity for COVID19 to infect you. Surviving it is a “crapshoot.” Even some very healthy young people have ended up dying from it, or ended up with severe symptoms with chronic conditions. So being in the “best survival demographic” isn’t a guarantee. The Anti-vax belief system takes a few exceptions and tries to treat them as far more prevalent. It’s ignorance to not consider the actual percentages outside of your own experience.

I still wear a mask in stores. It’s truly a minor inconvenience and well worth it. And I’m trying to avoid stores where many people have ditched their masks. I was just out in Eastern Long Island (NY) and while stores like CVS and Stop & Shop have “mask required” notices at their front doors, like half the patrons inside don’t have masks on. In some cases it’s “COVID fatigue” but others are simply believing the virus isn’t a problem anymore because of disinfo or personal experience. And sadly, the virus is not yet done—states with low vaccination rates are suffering spikes, like Florida.

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I had zero reaction to my J&J vaccine… Im over 65.
the nurse that gave me the vaccine, maybe in her 30s, warned me to expect severe pain in the injection arm (which was her reaction), that would prevent me from sleeping on that side for days.

one of my daughters, in her 30s, fainted a few minutes after her J&J shot. She was fine after that.

I heard somewhere, that younger people have stronger immune systems than senior citizens, so people with strong immune systems can develop More Severe reactions to the vaccine… this is supposedly a good sign, that their immune system is fighting hard…

I dont know…

as to immunity after getting covid, my Stanford Biology daughter tells me that it would be best to add a vaccination, after having had covid… the protection is greater

I respect that people do what they do based on their best intentions
I also agree that a corona test can be negative, when the person is asymptomatic. Unfortunately, testing negative for corona is not a guarantee. Sometimes the test wont be positive until 5+ days after infection.

This is why my Biologist daughter, waits a week to get tested after doing anything risky, like, eating indoors at a restaurant, or attending a crowded parade.

I hope everyone continues to stay safe, wear masks, and get vaccinated. In my experience, Unvaccinated people are at higher risk than Vaccinated people. Plus Unvaccinated people put others at risk. Especially now that the mask mandates are being lifted. There is no way to tell by looking at someone, whether their mask is off because they are Vaccinated, or it is off because they decided to gamble on their natural immunity.

There is a difference between what is good for self, that only affects self. When I make choices that put others at higher risk, then we are facing the issue of social responsibility, not individual liberty.

imo, unvaccinated people, especially those not wearing masks, should stay away from Senior Citizens. Going to hospital is dangerous, and people die of things they catch there.

7681

What about the people (there’s lots of them) that wear their mask below their nose — How does that fit into being a responsible individual

There was guy in the Auto Parts last night —he was serious — he had a double filter rig on — ready to paint a car

7682

Given that the nose is the main entry point for infection (with the eyes probably in second place) and one of the main sources if you are infected, if you are wearing your mask below your nose you may as well not be wearing it in most cases. If you are talking or singing aloud a mask below the noise would still be better than no mask, but still deficient compared to a mask covering the nose.

7683

Infection rate around here is way down. Being vaccinated I feel confident going unmasked. Are your areas still high and that is why you are so concerned about masks?

7684

No matter the responsibility, people with masks below the nose look ridiculous. And they have ugly noses
That is a personal experience. :stuck_out_tongue:

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My county in Alabama has a population of 102,238.

Last 14 days it looks like we had 35 cases.That appears to be down from the previous 14 days.

No one seems to have died.

I think I read a little over 30% of the population have had the CV Vaccine.

Still see a few people wearing masks here & there, mostly by elderly people & POC.

For the most part things seem pretty much back to normal… at least at the limited places ai frequent.

Mandates have all been removed.

7686

In my country there is still a mask mandate indoors, the rates are still high but quickly decreasing thanks to most of the population vaccinated. People who are registering now are getting the Pfizer vaccine because of increased supply and a large donation (thanks USA!).

I understand that in the US there is no longer a mask mandate and most stores don’t longer enforce mask wearing, but regardless of mask mandates, if you are wearing a mask for extra protection to yourself or to protect vulnerable people, you should wear it correctly, otherwise it will do next to nothing. The coronavirus is partly airbone and has been airbone since day 1, it’s not a new development.

7687

Around here in Michigan roughly 50% of population is vaccinated, yet the state no longer has any mask mandates in place. It’s an honor system - you’re supposed to wear a mask if you have not been vaccinated, but pretty much nobody wears a mask at a grocery store anymore while statistically only half of the customers there have been vaccinated. And so I still wear a mask when indoor shopping, even though I am fully vaccinated. Vaccines are not 100% effective, and I don’t trust other people’s honor. Those who don’t believe in vaccines are usually the same ones who don’t believe in masks.

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IF the person wears glasses they are being responsible by not fogging up their glasses so they can see & not haphazardly run into or over people. :+1: :smiley:

Were you able to keep a straight face when you saw the guy at the Parts Store wearing a respirator???
Honest answer…… :wink:

7689

:+1: That”s good news.

7690

:+1: +1

7691

If you wear a mask below the nose because your glasses fog then don’t expect your mask to do much. If you only wear a mask to comply with some rule then it’s a different matter. Of course if the fogging causes an actual safety issue you must rectify it by any means as it will be more dangerous than the virus.

Masks with good fit will fog your glasses way less than poorly fitting masks. I find that a N95 or a good fitting surgical mask will fog my glasses much less than a KN95 with earloops or a cloth mask (I don’t have any KN94 to compare).

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I had to look down when he passed me so he couldn’t see me Smirking

Around my area cases are way down and things are pretty much back to normal as normal can get — I was totally floored today going get a massage that they required mask and took my temp —- The therapist just kind of nodded in the room that it was cool to take it off

7693

Different kind of “happy ending”?

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Ahh — The simple pleasures in life —- No Fricken Mask