Anyone's ThruNite Ti2's not work on AAA Eneloops?........

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Anyone's ThruNite Ti2's not work on AAA Eneloops?........

I just got that 10-pak $29.99 deal from ThruNite……

https://thrunite.com/bss-ti2-keychain-light-pack-10pcs/

Every one of them doesn’t work on new Eneloops. Will only work on AAA Alkalines. Flat Stare

Did they change something on these by any chance? Manual sez it’ll work at 0.9V – 3V. LED supposedly is a CREE XTE. VF shouldn’t be an issue.

If anyone else has this issue I bet ThruNite’s gonna hear about it. Glad I only bought one pak if this is reality.

Bought a bunch of the screamin’ deal Ti3’s that were on sale for $5.95. Like it lots. Cash Thumbs Up

PS. Just jumped the head and the Eneloop now works. Soooooo….something’s probably blocking the positive Eneloop anode from making contact. Looking at the driver’s chips, etc., some of them look like they could be set up too close to the driver’s positive contact nub. My caliper’s measure approx. 3.74mm width on the positive Eneloop anode. On a standard Alkaline it measures approx. 3.45mm.

Hmmmmm……me thinks the Eneloop’s wider anode doesn’t clear something on the driver. Shheeeeiiitt. Well guess I’ll havta solder a mini spring on the driver positive now and see if that’ll work. Shouldn’t even havta be writin’ this of course. Davie Angry

PSS. On two of these I rotated the head a little ‘extra’ to see if that would work. Same deal, nada. Noticed that the black chip with a capital “F” imprinted on its top had the nearest corner to the driver’s positive nub chipped off some. Enough that I can see the tiny wound wiring in it. This black chip is the largest one on the driver.

WHICH begs to question WHY IN HE*LL wood ThruNite design this driver so that the chip, capacitors, etc, are FACING the positive on the batt?????? The Ti3 has the typical driver set-up where the driver positive side is blank – except of course for the spring, brass nub, plate, whatever on other designs.

It’s almost as if the driver manufacturer maybe accidentally reversed things butt I doubt that even batch-wise. Plus if the batt (most likely an alky leaks) the fluids are gonna go right into the driver’s components. INSTANT TOASTVILLE.

Brilliant. LOL Facepalm

PSSS. Well they’re hearing about it. Just sent CS an e-mail. LOL Shocked

PSSSS. Eneloop AAAs have a straight wall positive anode plus they’re wider as noted above. Alkaline AAAs on the other hand have a ‘tapered’ positive anode or ‘arrow shaped’ in a general macro sense. Compare the two and you’ll see the immediate difference. Well watt this means for at least the Ti2’s I received is that ThruNite didn’t compensate clearance-wise on at least one of the driver components so basically the twisty head won’t allow the driver’s negative ring make contact with the tube’s contact surface. No worky. This is DOA.

Anyhow just keep this in mind if ya should ever get driver chips on the wrong side of the equation vis a vis an Eneloops positive anode interfering with them. Obviously if this is the case for all Ti2’s they didn’t test them with Eneloops either. The chips right next to the driver positive nub are dam close to its edge so there we go.

Maybe no one bought this deal besides me and if anybody did they’re happy as a pig in a blanket only using alkalines. Butt I hate alky’s. LOL So I have an unresolvable problem here Houston, over. Shocked

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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Btw, I almost can’t believe anyone here hasn’t had this problem. Someone must’ve bought these. Bueller?

I estimate it’s about 1/2 mm away from allowing negative ring contact. Sheeeiiit. It’s not a horrible little flash by any means at just $2.95 per. Well now it is at least for me. LOL

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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sad, I would return for refund
if I dont get prompt reply to customer service, I immediately go to Paypal and start a dispute.. I get much faster results.. I think that goes to a different email..

are the drivers missing the brass button shown in the Olight version:

these Do work w Eneloop

I agree the Ti3 are fun little hosts

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Thanks Jon for taking time here.

The driver has the same brass button you show. There are of course expected differences in component layout from Olight’s with the main one again being the distance from the button sides.

The left one (3EEOS) for example with its rectangular chip to the right of the button has essentially no green or circuitry gaps showing on mine. As well for the larger squarish one to the left. That tight. In fact under closer magnification let’s just say they’re touching the brass button. Shocked

That’s basically the gist of it.

Overall high quality in ThruNite’s products is clearly apparent in even these. And as I said, I really like the Ti3 so I’m not ragging on ThruNite’s products in general.

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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nottawhackjob wrote:
There are of course expected differences in component layout from Olight’s with the main one again being the distance from the button sides.

sad to hear the Thrunite batch has a component position problem.

Im suprised, since I believe all the different “brands”, get their parts from the same factory.

These are very cheap lights. The pill is plastic.. I consider the Ti2, Olight i3e, Skillhunt E3a, useful as spare battery carriers. I dont choose to use them as lights myself, partly because the single mode is at a rather high output, which kills the battery quicker than I need.

otoh, they make good keychain lights, as they are very tiny and lightweight. And as gifts to muggles who use alkaleaks, they work.

for me though, they MUST also work on Eneloop.. which is why I would vote with my wallet, and return the bundle of Ti2 that you discovered is not Eneloop capable..

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“…….or me though, they MUST also work on Eneloop.. which is why I would vote with my wallet, and return the bundle of Ti2 that you discovered is not Eneloop capable..”

Absolutely. This one was a show-stopper. LOL

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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well… glad to know there is a problem, so I dont go buy a bundle
thanks for taking the time to buy and try, and share info

glad you got the Ti3 anyway,
they are moddable, let me know if you want any coaching to roll your own

here is an album of some of my Ti3 LED and reflector mods
https://imgur.com/a/649QFBR
I recommend the 25 degree pebbled TiR, its a direct drop in

pic is a link where to buy the Tir, thanks to research by moderator007

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I had the problem. Envelope was longer. Cut one coil off bottom of spring. Fixed.

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Have several and mentioned the fix on another thread. Just cut a coil off spring and give it more room to make the contact.

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arow55 wrote:
I had the problem. Envelope was longer. Cut one coil off bottom of spring. Fixed.
that does not make sense to me. Are you talking about a Ti2 or some other light?

my Eneloop and my Primary are equal length
but the positive post is fatter on the Eneloop
how would cutting a spring solve that issue?

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jon_slider wrote:
arow55 wrote:
I had the problem. Envelope was longer. Cut one coil off bottom of spring. Fixed.
that does not make sense to me. Are you talking about a Ti2 or some other light?

my Eneloop and my Primary are equal length
but the positive post is fatter on the Eneloop
how would cutting a spring solve that issue?
![img]https://i.imgur.com/EyYfKINl.jpg[/img]!

Exactly.

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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I have encountered several items that worked with alkaline but not rechargeables.

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Ti2 I have many. Try it.

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“Ti2 I have many. Try it.”

Ok watt the heck I’ll try it. LOL

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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The eneloop is longer. Cutting a coil lets it make contact.

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The eneloop is longer. Cutting a coil lets it make contact.

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When I ordered my ti2s and 3s the shipping was free. What is the shipping now?

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nottawhackjob wrote:
“Ti2 I have many. Try it.”

Ok watt the heck I’ll try it. LOL

Just cut the top coil off. ANNNNNNNDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…………………………….

Still doesn’t work.

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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arow55 wrote:
When I ordered my ti2s and 3s the shipping was free. What is the shipping now?

Bought the 10-pak for $29.99. Shipping was $5.95.

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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nottawhackjob wrote:
nottawhackjob wrote:
“Ti2 I have many. Try it.”

Ok watt the heck I’ll try it. LOL

Just cut the top coil off. ANNNNNNNDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…………………………….

Still doesn’t work.

I cut bottom coil.
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nottawhackjob wrote:
the twisty head won’t allow the driver’s negative ring make contact with the tube’s contact surface.
I interpret the issue differently.

to me it sounds like the positive on the battery is not reaching the positive on the driver.

because the battery is on a spring, the body tube can still move forward to contact the pill… unless arow55 is correctly solving an issue with the spring being at maximum compression, preventing body tube contact to negative ring on pill. If I understand arow55 correctly, his Ti2’s did not work until he cut the spring.. I dont understand, but, if it works.. well.. maybe worth a try before returning the 10 pack.

I think (pure guessing without evidence yet), that the issue is because the eneloop positive post is wider and is hitting one of the parts on the driver. We confirmed by photo that the component is mounted slightly closer on the Ti2, than on my Olight i3e.

btw, the reason the components are on the battery side, is because the other side has the LED mounted directly to the board, no wires. imo the intent was to make the flattest driver possible. They did succeed at that.

whether the eneloop issue is spring length or positive post width, remains unclear to me

I would speculate that chipping the insulation off the component that is too close to the brass post on the driver, could enable a Ti2 to become eneloop friendly, without cutting the spring.. I dont know if chips of insulation getting broken off by the battery, is the actual reason that arow55’s lights started working.. Im glad he got them to work though, either way.. Im not trying to doubt the report, that spring cutting was associated with a non eneloop friendly Ti2, becoming less prejudiced against phat posts.

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Try jumping the negative contact of eneloop. That should tell you something.

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“Try jumping the negative contact of eneloop. That should tell you something.”……

Already did that right from the get-go when I was too lazy to pull the pill. LOL

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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When I got mine all they had were black and green. The tan look nice.

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nottawhackjob wrote:
“Try jumping the negative contact of eneloop. That should tell you something.”……

Already did that right from the get-go when I was too lazy to pull the pill. LOL


Wow. All I can say is cutting a coil off the big end worked on mine. Mentioned it on a thread about ti3 deal.
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“…….whether the eneloop issue is spring length or positive post width, remains unclear to me

I would speculate that chipping the insulation off the component that is too close to the brass post on the driver, could enable a Ti2 to become eneloop friendly, without cutting the spring.. I dont know if chips of insulation getting broken off by the battery, is the actual reason that arow55’s lights started working.. Im glad he got them to work though, either way.. Im not trying to doubt the report, that spring cutting was associated with a non eneloop friendly Ti2, becoming less prejudiced against phat posts.”

Ya know, I didn’t intentionally initially chip the components corners either. That happened when I put a little extra torque rotating the head. I heard a slight ‘krik!” and I thought, well Notta now it’s
really fooked up. LOL Anyway even beyond that obscene abuse it still werks. Tough little flash!

Anywho, since I got 9 more still in their boxes I suppose I could very carefully grind off more of the component’s base and see if that’ll werk. Or I can cut off ANOTHER coil. Shocked

Watt the heck ACT II. Off with another coil it is! LOL Beer

Stay tuned. I’ll be back. Shocked

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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arow55 can you post a photo of the pill in one of your Ti2.. Im looking to see the position of the components, and whether one of them has a corner chipped off

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Just cut the top coil off. ANNNNNNNDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…………………………….

Still doesn’t work.


duh!… LOL
thanks for taking (another) one for the team
makes no difference what end of a spring you cut.. move along

we already confirmed that battery lengths are the same, and that the positive post on the Eneloop is phatter than on the Primary battery

IF my hypothesis is correct
the correct fix is to create a way for the positive post on the battery, to reach the brass post on the pill

either chip away at the interfering component, or put a small magnet or solder blob on the battery positive post… or if you want to live dangerously, drop a little ball of tin foil onto the brass post on the pill, and hope it does not short to any other component.. Wink

and then return those Stupid Lights… LOL

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Try putting a small solder blob on the positive of the battery —- it might not be protruding far enough to make contact

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When I got mine all they had were black and green. The tan look nice.

Yeah it’s sexy.

All I can tell ya is that it’s a cute little sucker and wood be great muggle gifts. I mean it’s as simple as it gets plus it’s built well rugged.

I can only imagine that right now they’ve prolly sold thousands of these and if most were of this run they got a BIG warranty problem on their hands. Somebody in QA/Engineering…….

“Sung Yu! I need see in office RIGHT NOW!!!! Bring vaseline!!!!” LOL Shocked Facepalm

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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chops728 wrote:
Try putting a small solder blob on the positive of the battery —- it might not be protruding far enough to make contact

Already did that too right from the get-go. Still no werkyquerky.

Notta didn’t just fall off the carrot truck. LOL Beer

“In many things in order to truly understand the small picture you have to understand the big picture first.”

True Color Rendition (TCR)/Simplified Definition: “On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest rating, a TCR will equate to what true colors you see in sunlight vs the same object’s colors you see when illuminated with a flashlight. The closer the two are, the higher the TCR rating will be.”

The TCR Reference Standard is the Walmart Ozark Trail OT 50L , Model No. 6103.
It has a TCR rating of ‘10’. $1.00 including batteries.

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Got picture but don’t know how to post. Never posted picture on this forum.

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