They were saying same thing 5 years ago, and battery prices keep rising.
I donāt think supply-demand free market works with lithium batteries.
Itās obvious that governments keep forcing batteries with policies because they think it reduces emissions,. Thatās why so many manufacturers switch to battery power. But this is unnatural because itās driven by politics, not by free market. It is not sustainable so prices keep rising.
No do not be worried.
Ammo is another story. And it never goes down in price.
This was not common narrative 5 years ago, Tesla was considered a joke by the media, hit pieces were published with regularity and people were whining about how EVs cannot be viable. Tesla killers were common folklore.
Wholesale battery prices have been dropping for about a decade. Consumer prices are not quite the same story because manufacturers donāt actually condone our battery use, they sell in bulk for battery packs and some are diverted to single unit sales (often against manufacturers blessings).
Politics is actually slow to mandate EVs, its only in the last couple years governments are caring more than a soundbite.
So it does not work the way you are saying.
I just hope the quality keeps increasing.
three things:
1. since Milk was mentioned: we freeze Milk. ours lasts over a year. we freeze eggs, too.
2. about Ammo: try the refrigerator, not the freezer. cool and dry and dark similar to the bunkers militaries use to stockpile theirs.
3. now Batteries: go ahead and stock up. they are cheap enough. if shortages never happen it did not cost much to load up.
How do you maintain them? I have a few dozen and I find baby sitting them extremely tedious. Not many chargers (at least the inexpensive ones) allow you to charge/discharge the cells to a certain voltage.
I have enough to cover rotation (with the exception of 14500ās, of which I accumulated more than Iāll ever need searching for the best cell for my GT Micro NM1). At my age, and rate of discharge/ charge cycles on the various cells in use in my modest flashlight inventory, what I have will outlast me by years. The only situation that would prompt additional stockpiling is if I needed matched sets for multi cell lights (which Iām just not into), new to me light/cell size, or better matching amperage specs for LEDāS with unregulated drivers. Iām still looking for a quality sub 9A 26650 for my EA02 (that will fit in its under-bored tube).
I had to read this twice. You freeze milk and eggs? You are kidding right?
Some places have them now but a month ago I couldnāt find any Samsung 30Q or 35E. Also no LG MJ1.
Hey, look on the bright side. Maybe batteries will get more expensive because of the tree huggers and their electric cars but maybe coal powered flashlights will be the next thing
You know in NY they tell people to conserve electricity in the summer because the Con Edison power lines oveheat and often fail. The electrical grid is apparently ancient.
So what are they going to do when everyone is running their air conditioner and charging their car as well.
Oopsā¦I guess the politicians did not think about that.
It was the 300 coal miners in west Virginia that we are told contribute to global warming.
What a load of crap.
Hell, I didnāt know ammo would keep DRY in a refrigerator. I mean ya definitely wouldnāt wanna keep ammo in the crispers. 
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Nope. Mum used to buy milk on sale and freeze the excess. Careful thawing it, as the fat can separate out and it looks curdled and nasty.
Eggs, no. Putting cartons too close to the cold-air outlet in the fridge, and some eggs would freeze and crack.
I buy organical milk which lasts lots longer (UHT pasteurisation, kills more bugs but almost ācooksā the milk, giving it an āoffā taste drinking it straight, but is absolutely fine in coffee, farina, etc.). Now I can actually buy milk by the gallon, vs rushing to kill off a gallon of normal milk before itād to sour/rancid (ie, almost all the time).
And itās ridiculous, like 3.99 for a half-gallon of (normal) milk, vs 4.99 for a full gallon. So I always go for the bigāuns.
Before storage, I run them through a capacity test and measure the IR (at full charge). I write those values on each cell with a Sharpie then run them through a discharge test but I pull them off the charger when they get around 3.6V.
Every once in a while, I pull them out and check the cell voltage. So far, most of the cells still read 3.6V. Iāve only seen a few cells drop voltage over many months of storage. I havenāt measured them since before Covid. Probably time to check them again.
I use these for storage- Outdoor Products Large Storage Box
I canāt even describe to you how much I agree with everything you said my friendā¦
Agreeing with something does not make it right. Coal is absolutely the worst polluting fuel you can actually have in every single way.
Back on topic however, I wouldnāt worry much. Production of cylindrical cells is currently being bottlenecked not by actual factory output, but shipping woes mainly.
When international shipping for bulk orders cost 2-5x as much, you prioritize orders in which the orders numbers are large enough to not actually matter too much in terms of shipping costs, which is why smaller sellers seem to have a harder time getting the cells.
Yes and No.
Not to get political but the politicians went after those few coal miners left in west Virginia. They put them out of business. Promised them āgreenā jobsā which as we know never happened. The women were forced to turn into prostitution to feed their families, There was wide spread drug abuse. To think that those coal miners were going to get office jobs selling solar panels is absolutely absurd.
I was thinking more of the raw materials, if priority is going to all these electric vehicles and companies will there be enough for us and our recreational use? And if so, at what price? I keep reading that lithium production will hit a bottleneck by 2025 or something like that.
Another similar thread.SEE my Post #8 with an explanation derived from a battery dealer and owner, Jon from Liionwholsale.com
He started mentioning this in December 2020 and elaborated in Late March 2021ā¦basically old news.