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Best light for a sailor

Hey All,

For years I’ve been rocking just my armytek wizard pro v3 as my light source to go when sailing and camping. I just had some issues with it so I decided to buy a Skilhunt H04 as a backup. As a lantern, I’m using the blf lt1 one which I’m really happy with although I’m really longing for the mini version to hang up in my little tent.

The one thing that is missing is a handheld light to be used as some kind of searchlight. This light will need to be a thrower and needs to be bright with reasonable battery life. I’m thinking of the Sofirn C8G. It will be used to spot obstacles on the water while sailing and help with activities when I’m at my scouting.

What do you guys recommend? Any tips are welcome.

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My case for the lt1 has just arrived:

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Please define reasonable battery life, as this will be a big part of the search.
Also, how long do you plan it to use on turbo? (Due to possible stepdowns)

Nice case btw, which one is it?
Is it the JBL case?

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Yokiamy wrote:
Please define reasonable battery life, as this will be a big part of the search.
Also, how long do you plan it to use on turbo? (Due to possible stepdowns)

Nice case btw, which one is it?
Is it the JBL case?

Yes it is the jbl case. Works great with the stuff to hang up the light.

It will be used for a couple of hours at the time so it needs to have at least that runtime. I almost never run my lights on such a turbo that thermal trottling will start.

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Another thing I would like to add is that my budget is around 50 euros. This light will really be my extra light when my armytek headlight is not powerfull enough.

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I do have a Convoy L21A with XHP35 which might fit your needs, barely used.

I also have the current king of LEP laser flashlights the Maxtoch L2K, which would be excellent on water since you wont have any spill that might disorient you on water and it has great runtime.
That one exceeds your budget, but i’m willing to sell it.

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Haikelite HT35. Search lights with lots of spill are often useless on the water, mist causes so much back scatter you can’t see a thing.

Convoy Z1 if you’d like lighter weight and more compact but similar functionality.

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Open water = fog + mist + spray. Don’t want spill from a regular reflector light, so that leaves either a tight TIR, an aspheric, or a LEP.

Aspherics (zoomies) are best and cheapest, but the least waterproof due to the moving head. The JaxMan Z1 (nice version of the Cometa, which I got) would be great.

A tight TIR like the 2 Acebeams (L17/L19??) might work great, but don’t recall their cost.

A LEP would be best for longest “punch”, but they’re the priciest.

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Yokiamy wrote:
I do have a Convoy L21A with XHP35 which might fit your needs, barely used.

I also have the current king of LEP laser flashlights the Maxtoch L2K, which would be excellent on water since you wont have any spill that might disorient you on water and it has great runtime.
That one exceeds your budget, but i’m willing to sell it.


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Something with a very narrow TIR optic or LEP. LEPs are over $100 euros for a cheap one though. I recommend the Acebeam L17 or L18. The L17 is closer to your budget around $50 euro, but the L18 is the next best choice becsuse the beam is more useful and it takes 21700 batteries for longer runtime. Its around 70 euro.

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Have you thought about the 4×18a convoy that uses 4 nateria 18650? should last long enough. A hotter xhp70 led should give little reflection. If you prefer to play star wars use 4×18s with sbt90.

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If new to flashlights, hearing recommendations of Lep mixed with Tir, for use on the water could be confusing.

I love tir flashlights, but you can’t see several hundred meters with them on the water in any but the clearest situation.

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Anyone that even tries to answer this question is really giving you bad advice. At the end of the day, it’s up to you. A flashlight is a tool. What kind of tool you use is up to you.

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zoulas wrote:
Anyone that even tries to answer this question is really giving you bad advice. At the end of the day, it’s up to you. A flashlight is a tool. What kind of tool you use is up to you.

I always assume the questioner knows that, and is looking for the reasons some models fit specific uses. Otherwise there would just be 1 or 2 flashlights. I don’t want to live in that world.

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I just ordered and received the acebeam L18. Apparently I ordered batteries without a protection circuit. Is that a problem?

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I just ordered and received the acebeam L18. Apparently I ordered batteries without a protection circuit. Is that a problem?

I’ll be interested to hear if you feel it still has too much spill on the water.

I don’t see where Acebeam claims the L18 has low voltage protection, but reviews state it does, and you have a battery level indicator, I wouldn’t worry about protected batteries.

https://1lumen.com/review/acebeam-l18/

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i;d think a ‘sailor’ would also need something floody, pocketable, and still pretty bright

i use my FW3A about 50 times a day

i never miss having a ‘throwy light’

well i mean i have a couple, i may use them 3 times a year

it sounds like you need one, but you also need something for close up situations, which it seems would occur frequently also.

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A light should fit your needs, not your occupation. There is no best light for a mechanic or a doctor or a sailor for that matter.

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zoulas wrote:
A light should fit your needs, not your occupation. There is no best light for a mechanic or a doctor or a sailor for that matter.

Depends on the vessel!

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How far away do you need to see?
100m, 500m, 1000m, 2000m?

The further, the higher the cost.

The fog is a good point made above, if this is not an issue and all you need is say 250 meters a low cost carefully selected may handle it.

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Bort wrote:
How far away do you need to see.

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Bort wrote:
How far away do you need to see.

Forever


OP is out of luck then Crying
Even sunlight is not forever Tired

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The use case for me is mostly spotting marks on the water which don’t have lights. I think a thrower is a great light for that. Apart from that it’s great to amaze friends with the range :-p.

For everything else than this I use my armytek wizard Pro headlamp. You need both hands while sailing and you can set it exactly to the amount of light you want. Especially the moonlight modes are great because you retain night vision. In my opinion good moonlight modes are way better than red lights.

I also just got my lt1. That’s probably great for inside the cabin although lighting is almost all ready installed there.

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wle wrote:
i;d think a ‘sailor’ would also need something floody, pocketable, and still pretty bright

i use my FW3A about 50 times a day

i never miss having a ‘throwy light’

well i mean i have a couple, i may use them 3 times a year

it sounds like you need one, but you also need something for close up situations, which it seems would occur frequently also.

Most sailors I know use headlamps. You need your hands and you need licht very local.

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The use case for me is mostly spotting marks on the water which don’t have lights. I think a thrower is a great light for that. Apart from that it’s great to amaze friends with the range :-p.

For everything else than this I use my armytek wizard Pro headlamp. You need both hands while sailing and you can set it exactly to the amount of light you want. Especially the moonlight modes are great because you retain night vision. In my opinion good moonlight modes are way better than red lights.

I also just got my lt1. That’s probably great for inside the cabin although lighting is almost all ready installed there.


A C8 will give you plenty of throw, also i have a Nitecore P30 with 600 meters of throw, i think there are a couple updates that throw much further.

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wle wrote:
i;d think a ‘sailor’ would also need something floody, pocketable, and still pretty bright

i use my FW3A about 50 times a day

i never miss having a ‘throwy light’

well i mean i have a couple, i may use them 3 times a year

it sounds like you need one, but you also need something for close up situations, which it seems would occur frequently also.

Most sailors I know use headlamps. You need your hands and you need licht very local.


Perhaps a solid/permanent mount is the answer?

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You need a light that is waterproof, and will float.

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A no-spill pencil beam is the best when hunting for channel markers at night .
Especially when you’re trying to preserve your night vision .

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You need a light that is waterproof, and will float.

For my personal use I disagree. If a light drops overboard it’s probably at night. The chances that I will be able to recover it are very tiny. I think its beter to have some rope attached. That’s what I do with most of my sailing stuff anyways.

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How about the Convoy L21B (SFT40): Review & Beamshots? It takes the bigger 21700 battery so more run time than an 18650 and looks like a great thrower based on the review!

I’d rather use my flashlight around the house than turn on the lights.

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