CPF Sold - Under New Management

Uhhh, to be fair, I consider that to be the context it's used in, not a generalized statement.

This is another nasty a*s mean-spirited BS comment that’s starting to get on my nerves around here.
The rudeness is becoming way too commonplace. :disguised_face:

Heard someone describe this horrible trend perfectly the other day. They posited this started with John Stewart’s comedy, except he is funny and they are not.

My breaking point with CPF was when, for the second time in a few years, I gently reminded someone of the rules and asked them politely not to post remarks that were critical of other people’s religious beliefs. To my surprise, I was attacked by the administrator/owner for what she assumed were my religious beliefs. I could not believe it at first, and thought the first time that it must have just been the result of someone having a bad day - but when it happed again, and I also saw the strident and condescending political comments of some other moderators coming up time after time, I decided it wasn’t the community for me.

No matter if he’s right or wrong: Clearly yes. But he may have had a bad day thus far, so let’s just ignore it, not getting into or even igniting a flame war. That would be the best support for sb’s style of moderation.

Edit: The second-best support is Raccoons Milla pictures :heart_eyes:

Moderation is no easy task, even somewhere as simple as a facebook group or something. I put in several years of doing it and it takes some thought to do it well and fairly, and being able to have clear directions from the forum owners or whomever is supervising the gig. I love the approach here on BLF and it works - works very well. There are some things that I might choose to wipe or nudge a little but it's good when "free speech" is allowed, and people can be normal humans without requiring users to earn a degree in forum rules and idiosyncrasies.

To be fair...or maybe just gracious...I believe the goal at CPF was to try to limit chaff and repetition, keep things on topic and "useful" but they just kicked it up ten notches over time to the point where they were indeed pretty harsh and rigid, even being unkind and judgmental frequently. Sometimes the idea is to keep the forum useful as a repository of reference/encyclopedia for future users but that can easily come at the expense of squelching the life from a living, breathing gathering place. Sometimes limits on storage space or costs of that space and running the site (which are not insignificant) become top priority and then things clamp down if they don't find a $ solution.

Even a couple hundred active users is a handful to deal with at times but there (was) enough activity there that I'm sure with their hovering approach to moderating it became a bit overwhelming or too time consuming that they ended up getting intolerant. When that happens people get weary or edgy, don't want to do the job anymore or even drop off the mod list, or they need to get more and more moderators to handle the load - then they start forming mod schedules to cover time slots, which inevitably dig in to personal lives/time, and the cycle repeats as a quiet hurricane forms. This isn't a justification or approval because they could be real nitwits that seemed to be more concerned with winning their one-sided fights, but an understanding of maybe how it came to be. And I think they stopped caring about "growing" the forum and keeping it fresh with new users, too, which is fine but not the most social attitude for what is normally a social venue.

BLF is doing it right. Bumpers on the gutters to keep everyone headed down the lane usually without resorting to barbed wire and stun guns. I also appreciate how sb allows comments to stand or entire threads to remain even if they get locked and has a very light finger on the delete key. I think his spirit shows in the forum over time and how the membership & attitudes stay pretty great here.

It’s easy to overdo moderation, yes. I was a mod, too. And I wouldn’t do it again.

Bit of a distinction first.

A newb is someone interested in lights and wants to learn more.

The Muggle™ is your neighbor, your barber, your cashier, etc., who just wants A Light, and isn’t interested in cri, lumens, color temp, etc. Press button, light up, that’s all they want.

Yeah, I am not sure but have a feeling he may have a family… so there’s that kind of higher priority need. He was such an active & helpful reviewer in the early emerging LED flashlight years. I also must imagine that at this point, he has so many lights well and above his needs that the drive to explore more must’ve waned. I do wonder if he has seen the Anduril UI or is aware of the latest emitter breakthroughs on extreme throwing.

I wish he'd make an update on his site so people would know what he's up to. There's no mention anywhere that I can see of his pulling out of the LED flashlight enthusiast community.

Dang, his last review was Nov. 2016 and the list of reviews is huge! Like maybe 300+. I really enjoyed his reviews as well - he set a few standards. The pipe lightbox I still use was based on his design, and I think i used to get close to the same results, before the maukka calibration era.

I have lost track of how many different topic threads that I’ve posted in about the difference between the two forums. Self built was my first attraction to the other forum, and then sky lumen. I felt so sad when I realized that Self built would not be doing a review on the Noctigon meteor M43. Then when I finally figured out that going gear would not be carrying the meteor, I discovered sky lumen. Then I discovered this forum. There are so many things in life that there are two of. Two different kinds of human beings. Two different political outlooks. Two different economic outlooks. Two different philosophies on life. Two different personality styles. Two different leadership styles. Two different financial bases. I recall that one forum wanted to maintain and protect their strong focus on non-budget lights, and then someone saw the need to have a forum for where frugal meets flashlight. That, and also different leadership style. I have had lots of time to meditate and philosophize about the difference between the two flashlight forums. I have decided that the difference between the two forums is not mirrored in the dichotomy between conservative and liberal politics. The dichotomy between the two forums is not mirrored in the conflict between progressive and liberal philosophy. The dichotomy between the two forums is not mirrored in the dichotomy between spiritual and materialistic philosophy. The dichotomy between the two forms is not mirrored by the dichotomy between male and female. I have come to a firm conclusion that the dichotomy between the two forums is not a mirror of the conflict between good and evil. The idea that one is good and the other is evil is a false conclusion. The final battle between good and evil is not mirrored in the difference between the two flashlight forums. One has one financial focus, and the other has a different financial focus. One has one type of leadership style, and the other has a different kind of leadership style. Labeling one as good, and the other one as bad, is a gross oversimplification, and is also in poor taste. The next time another topic thread about how horrible the other forum is comes up, I’m just gonna buy a Malkoff and a Convy and then my existence firmly halfway in between both will be complete.

That’s the BLF spirit! Or at least the Convoy part of it is! :wink:

I wonder if the CPF Facebook page went with the sale ?

Someone on CPF already asked about this, and yes it did.

Is the facebook page part of the sale?

Yes, and also the Underground
I will still be around to help out with the transition and so will the other moderators and administrators.

What i found most interesting is

Does this mean this buyer pledged to be just as punitive?

I understand why you want to insult me. Its okay. I still stand by what I said being that we’re specifically talking about this forum. I’m happy that BLF has never been down for me and it loads fast. And overall this is such a great community from which I’ve learnt so much!

Apparently my attempt at humor failed. I apologize.

Back in the early 2000’s I operated a heavily modified (by me) phpBB for customer support as a side project. The PHPheads back then were completely convinced, and very vocal that Java would never get anywhere for web development because all the Java web frameworks were multi-threaded. PHP didn’t and couldn’t use threads at all, so, obviously, nobody needs threads.

I haven’t had much to do with the PHP community since then, but in 2021, with the so many of the dominant web dev frameworks being multi-threaded, doesn’t it seem just a tad Luddite to claim that a widely used, proven technology is just a buzz-word?

Anyone check cpf lately? It’s ads galore. I won’t be visiting that site anymore.

I just went there with an adblocker, and of course it looked fine.