Wurkkos FC12S (side switch version from FC12) what do you think?

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FC12 Amazon EU reviews invited now

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Tom E wrote:

Hhmm, you mean like what regular Anduril or Anduril 2 do? With these, like most e-switch firmware, they shut power off to the LED and put the system into a low power standby which is typically in the range of 20-30 uA. A click though “wakes” it up from standby mode.


If the MCU treated the e-switch like full power shutoff, then there would be no way to wake it back up via the e-switch. You may still have some parasitic drain as well from the driver components, not the MCU itself. 

Right, like andruil

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I'm hoping it will be as easy mod upgrade to a driver running Anduril 2 with the tactical switch support. All that means for Anduril 2 is that a power switch ON turns the LED on to the last used level instead of leaving the LED off, as it does normally. I got a couple modded lights with an e-switch and a power switch running like this, and for me it works pretty well.

Just wish Wurkkos made this light this way, out of the box.

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I was sort of hoping I could put my usb dongle to use and flash the existing driver. Please let me know if you find a suitable driver. It will be cold out before I have time to take it apart myself.

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Mine arrived in NJ 3 days ago, so it says, but no movement since. Once I get it, will take a look.

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Good luck – mine spent 3 days in NJ then went to indiana, then back over to NY.

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Why this light is not 21700?
Same story with IF25A. Does not have mechanical swich on tailcap.

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Where can I find those reviews?
Is Amazon NL also possible to order from?

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dthrckt wrote:
Good luck - mine spent 3 days in NJ then went to indiana, then back over to NY.

Should be here tomorrow - came in to the local P.O. about 2 hours too late for a Saturday delivery...

Tangra wrote:
Why this light is not 21700? Same story with IF25A. Does not have mechanical swich on tailcap.

Agree with you here. Only reason is to keep width and length down for EDC, but then again the design is not optimized for small size.

Jan81 wrote:
Where can I find those reviews? Is Amazon NL also possible to order from?

Too early for reviews, and they didn't have a preview release for reviewers, I guess. Dunno about Amazon NL.

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Jan81 wrote:
Where can I find those reviews?
Is Amazon NL also possible to order from?

this is a new release model, not have many reviews now, there are some reviews on facebook wurkkos group
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I received mine last Friday and tested it over the weekend. I will post a short summary when I’m back home.

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Great light all around.

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Looking forward to it. My first torch seems te be either the FC11 Ir the FC12

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Make the FC11 with a deeper reflector from the FC12 without a rear derailleur!

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Here’s a short summary of my first impressions: https://budgetlightforum.com/node/78712

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weklund wrote:
p=. Great light all around.

!https://i.postimg.cc/s2vPkSmN/20210816-051028-1629118496601.jpg!

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Jan81 wrote:
Looking forward to it. My first torch seems te be either the FC11 Ir the FC12

It’s an honor to be the first, thank you
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zaxar0580 wrote:
Make the FC11 with a deeper reflector from the FC12 without a rear derailleur!

Yes, when use SFT40, a deeper reflector will be needed, the poor is the length longer
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Mine arrived. I found a tube light that is actually longer, 138 mm vs 136.5 mm, than the FC12. It's an Eagle Eye X5 on the left:

Also found tailcaps that fit and work, but not the other way around:

This one may be my favorite:

Even an old SWM C20C cap fits:

I do like the beam. As others said because of the deep reflector, the hot spot is well defined, the flood area is small but bright. Also I noticed the lower levels don't have the green effect I see on my custom FET+1 drivers with the SFT-40. For the FET+1's, on the lower channel 7135, there's a noticeable green. Not sure why but must have something to so do with PWM'ing at low amps (0.35 amps). The stock driver on the FC12 doesn't have that effect.

It's funny because the reflector looks designed for a 3535 XP footprint LED. It looks like the reflector is actually sitting on the corners of the LED because the hole is too small, but it works well, appears to be well centered.

Overall now, I'm glad I ordered this light.

I did measure ~6.3 amps on a 30Q and ~7.3 amps on a 25S cell, so it does vary based on resistance of the cell. Not sure, but at least on max/turbo, it may be in full FET mode. Just a spot check on the 30Q had about 1800 lumens at start which probably makes sense from the amp readings. It's a small light so heats up quick at these levels.

Mine didn't come with a manual - hope I can get one to download.

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Tom E wrote:
Not sure, but at least on max/turbo, it may be in full FET mode.

Yes, it is full FET.
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Hopefully Wurkkos realizes the color is a big factor in the popularity, despite some UI and length issues Smile

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That purple is a sparkling ano - it's impressive!

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No stock black, when do you sell the new colors?

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Wurkkos disregard any and all ideas about a side switch working as an on/off switch. Because if you do that, the light loses the ability to be jacket-pocket carried without accidental activation. Or else have a separate model with the side switch as activation switch.

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There few and many reasons for a manufacturer to do whatever deem fits best.

End of the day, I will never buy any Wurkkos Flashlight because when newly launch, they tends to overpriced. After 1/2 months, they price will drop drastically.

Just my opinion and observation…

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LTC wrote:
There few and many reasons for a manufacturer to do whatever deem fits best.

End of the day, I will never buy any Wurkkos Flashlight because when newly launch, they tends to overpriced. After 1/2 months, they price will drop drastically.

Just my opinion and observation…

I don’t see how that’s a disqualifier. Sounds like a reason TO buy Wurkkos. They get their profit from people unwilling to wait, and you pay less later on.

It’s a manufacturer, not a friend or neighbor, and with the pace that new flashlight models are released prices will always go down.

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First of all, I never mentioned anything about disqualifier, it’s just my opinion.

To each his own. That’s the reason in next 100 years. There will be no best Flashlight in the world.

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LTC wrote:
There few and many reasons for a manufacturer to do whatever deem fits best.

End of the day, I will never buy any Wurkkos Flashlight because when newly launch, they tends to overpriced. After 1/2 months, they price will drop drastically.

Just my opinion and observation…

I don’t see how that’s a disqualifier. Sounds like a reason TO buy Wurkkos. They get their profit from people unwilling to wait, and you pay less later on.

It’s a manufacturer, not a friend or neighbor, and with the pace that new flashlight models are released prices will always go down.

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LTC wrote:
I will never buy any Wurkkos Flashlight because…
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First of all, I never mentioned anything about disqualifier,…

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dthrckt wrote:
LTC wrote:
I will never buy any Wurkkos Flashlight because…
LTC wrote:
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That’s a silly reason. Doesn’t even make sense tbh

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