Sofirn SP10 Pro (AA/14500/Andúril 2) - now available!

Can confirm, auto lock settings do not carry over to simple UI.

Yup, I just confirmed the same using my customized SP10S with the proposed firmware.

I’m not sure how many people would want to use Simple UI with auto lock, but I don’t think it would be too hard to implement.

Yup, it looks like it would be a simple add. The question though is: should it’s inclusion be made it universal? or should it be a compile-time config option? TK clearly designed it to not autolock in Simple UI. So I would think if it’s going to be added in, it should be a compile flag. The setup of autolock would definitely still happen in Advanced UI, but I could see it’s config carrying over to Simple UI. (sorry, kinda thinking out loud there)

ToyKeeper/spaghetti-monster/anduril/off-mode.c

#ifdef USE_AUTOLOCK
// lock the light after being off for N minutes
#ifdef USE_SIMPLE_UI
if (! simple_ui_active) {  // no auto-lock in Simple UI
#endif
    uint16_t ticks = autolock_time * SLEEP_TICKS_PER_MINUTE;
    if ((autolock_time > 0)  && (arg > ticks)) {
        set_state(lockout_state, 0);
    }
#ifdef USE_SIMPLE_UI
}
#endif
#endif  // ifdef USE_AUTOLOCK

Thank you gchart for this great idea. :THUMBS-UP:

I like this option, but…

to be honest, I fear that both Sofirn and some (many?) BLF members / customers would rather like Simple UI to be really „K.I.S.S.“ (keep it simple, stupid). Some “muggle“ users could get confused if their light locks out automatically. On the other hand, if auto-lock is not active in the factory defaults of the Advanced UI, it should not be of any concern.

How about a quick poll (1 week runtime) to see what people want most? I can ask Barry to hold on using the current firmware for there might be another one coming with auto-lock working in Simple UI, too.

Auto lock probably won’t be a good idea. Hand a light to grandparents and they’d just think it were broken. Anyone given a light in simple UI should be able to figure out how to use it immediately.

Even as an enthusiast and huge fan of Anduril - I agree, I think auto-lock should be kept out of the simple mode. But I also agree with the suggestion to put it to a poll.

Remember - auto lock would still have to be set up in advanced UI for it to carry over to simple UI. There would be no danger of someone accidentally enabling auto lock from within simple UI.

Active Poll #1 for 7 days from now on:

Would you like Auto-Lock to be integrated in Andúril 2 Simple UI?

https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/72913

Active poll #2 for 14 days from now on:

What anodizing do you prefer for SP10 Pro?

https://budgetlightforum.com/t/-/72914

I agree with the points that have been made: keep Simple UI simple. I voted no.

The driver will have flashing pads. If anyone really wants this as an option, they could flash some custom firmware.

Aah yes you’re right I forgot about that part, guess I’ll do that then :innocent:

+1

I intend to use post #2, currently empty, for (alternative) firmware repository links and download links to the manual/UI diagrams.

Moreover, additional information how to build a suitable flashing adapter or where to get a possible Sofirn-made adapter could be posted there, too.

Great work :smiley:

Hope the next project will be the SP35 Pro where it will be the similar big brother of the SP10 Pro :wink:

I think its Dangerous and irresponsible to have Simple come with a 150/150 ceiling, AND no lockout…

The FWAA Simple mode also has a 150/150 ceiling.
but
The FWAA Simple mode Does have Lockout….

I just tested it… I know Im in simple cause triple click from off, gives battery level only once, and triple click from On does nothing.

imo Simple should NOT come with 150/150 ceiling

First off, no one is saying that Simple UI won’t have lockout. I think you might have misread something. What we’re talking about is auto-lock in Simple UI, which I feel will probably just get confusing and is why it was excluded from Simple UI in the first place. The normal lockout mechanism will still exist in SP10 Pro’s Simple UI, and is shown as such in Lux-Perpetua’s diagram.

Secondly, if you’re worried about Simple UI having a 150/150 ceiling, then perhaps the SP10 Pro isn’t for you. But I don’t think there’s anything dangerous about it. No one is getting burnt from an SP10. It has no higher output than the stock SP10S that Sofirn has now been selling for years. If anything, it is now safer since it will have thermal regulation.

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Maybe L-P can copy those graphs to the OP. These are very informative, and 36 pages is like impossible to go through.

> First off, no one is saying that Simple UI won’t have lockout. I think you might have misread something. What we’re talking about is auto-lock in Simple UI

got it, youre right, I misunderstood

> Secondly, if you’re worried about Simple UI having a 150/150 ceiling, then perhaps the SP10 Pro isn’t for you.

youre right again,
I keep thinking the SP10 will have the same 150/150 of 1200 lumens on LiIon, like the FWAA

youve reminded me we covered this before,
and I concluded the Eneloop option in the SP10 PRO will eliminate any Fear of Turbo…

Thanks for looking into this gchart, having a cheap flasher option would be great indeed.

As far as I know there is only one readily available, user friendly Anduril flashing solution on the market: Hank’s adapter set with pogo pins. Can we please make this light compatible with it?

I know, maker have their own preference and opinion on how the pins should be arranged and some offer designs to make PCBs and solder pogo pins and all that, but for the average user that is not worth the hustle in my opinion. So, please, make it compatible with the only flashing solution that s readily available.

Not possible. Sorry, this is a newer generation of AVR chip that uses a newer flashing standard (UPDI instead of ISP).

Is there a possibility to use the pogo pin adapter from that set, at least?