ITS HERE! SIPIK SK98 - A 18650 based Sipik SK68 with an XML!

The throw is not too tight, but it is still nice! I don’t think you can tighten the big XM-L down like you can an XP-G or XR-E

Here is a link to the comparison, see post #61

Thanks for the quick update. So maybe the XR-E is still better for throw in the SK98? I wasn't sure if the XM-L could possibly match it based purely off of the significantly increased power.

I think it gets the job done just fine. No real need for a pencil-thin beam, at least for me.

So how do you figure it fits in to your collection as a practical EDU (Every Day Use) type of light? Is it worth keeping at the top of your rotation? I suppose it's very similar to the SK68 but with more power.

Thank you for those beamshot. It looks like it floods in a very wide angle. That is just what I need from a work light.

Biiig flood for the up close are work. And a strong clip so I can clip it on to my ear protection. And cheap. And 18650 battery runtime. And a really low low - oh well. After driver swap it is still only 20 $ ;-)

My thoughts on zoomies in general and this Sipik98 specifically;

It is a fun light, but I don't take it seriously. If I needed an EDC, this would not be it. If I was a LEO, this would not be my daily light. Fun to play with, but the lack of a real reflector makes it a weak light in my eyes.

But it is a cool toy for 14 bucks, and I'm sure it will get a lot of attention from non-flashaholics. Way better light than the multiple LED stuff people buy at checkstands or Hardware stores, but not on par with a P1 or C8 or such. I'm just not a fan of aspherics.

troop how does the throw compares to the sk68?

I EDC'd (jacket) my 'new c55' modded to xml at 2.8A until the switch got flaky.

Now I carry a AA xm-l light w/ blacked out reflector and ashpheric (about half focused) in place of flat lens.

I like no hot spot...

I have yet to buy an SK68, so I would not be able to tell you...

LOL, funny, I just remembered that I bought 3 Citi clones of the 68, they are still in a drawer in their unopened boxes. I will check them out tonight. I think they are XM-L though, but I could be wrong.

Nope, not XM-L, the emitter-image "box" only has 2 internal lines in it.

Mine, after less than 10 minutes, the wire desoldered from the star board.

The pastic retaining ring (the only thing that retain the led in place) melted, and now the the star isn't contacting the "pill".

3.5/3.7Amps with that poor thermal path...

Well, I bought this light hoping for the bet, and as others have said, you get the worst pretty much. Flood is nice, but zoomed in not very bright, my HD2010 destroys it for throw with a larger lit area and my UF-T50 is better for flood overall. For under $16 can be too mad, but even at that cheap price it definitely is not worth it, may just take it apart and salvage the XM-L and toss the rest.

This isn’t the Sk98 but it’s what I ordered from Meritline

http://www.meritline.com/cree-led-flash-light-xp-g-q5-convex-zoom—-p-60479.aspx?OrderBy=1&pagenum=3&RatingSortByYN=0

This the Q5 Sipik, I ordered before I realized it wasn’t the SK98. Should arrive in the next few weeks.

The SK68, which is what you ordered, is a great light, built really well actually, which is why I had high hopes for the SK98.

The Sk68 looks the same as the sk98 but takes an AA or 14500. What I ordered is something else. Watch the video on
Meritline, it’s not like the Sk68 or 98, you have to twist the head to zoom.

These are Sk68’s or atleast look like them

http://www.meritline.com/cree-led-flash-light-xp-g-q5-convex-zoom—-p-69326.aspx

There are one or two guys around here who love aspheric lenses, but I think most of us are disappointed in them. You also have a light that basically has no relector, so it’s going to give you a beam that you are not used to, has not spill, and really no hot spot unless fully focused.

They are fun to play with, but I just don’t think of zoomies as serious lights.

But then to each his own. I personally think that zoomies are the best thing since I made a flamethrower. And that was seriously funny until the local police officer came around and told me I should probably not be using that any more or he would have to start filing paperwork :cry:
But I digress…
For the size of the package I have yet to find any one flashlight that can do nearly all I want in such a small package as a zoomie can. But thats just my 0,02$ :slight_smile:

The zoomies do give you flood and throw from a single light, I will give you that, but the problem is you can get better flood or better throw from normal lights, but not both from the same light usually. For throw I am not including lights like the Dereelight DBS etc. since they aren’t zoomies, they are full time aspheric throwers.

Hell yeah!

Gonna order the 98 next month, can’t wait for that!

And therein lies the majority of my qualms. I have to carry another light with me if I stop using zoomies. And another spare battery next to the one I already carry.
And then where is the definition of “better flood” ? or “better throw”?.

To me the best flood is evenly distributed. No hotspot/corona/spill transitions and no artifacts. I need the light to have no distractions for my work. I often find myself working in small quarters with infinitesimally small objects that I need to manipulate in awkward ways places where it was never intended humans to access again. Especiallly not 6”1 humans with a bit of flab :wink: And in those situations I have learned that the more even the light distribution is the better are my perception of depth and angles relative to each other.

About throw. To me the best throw is one without any spill! My eyes ability to clearly see details about my chosen target are much affected by the backscattered light from reflectored lights. A XML thrower at full blast being fed 5+ amps and putting out 75 + kcd is often of less actual use to me than a 1,8 amp driven XR-E behind a aspheric. And no I cannot use the spill to put perspective to the target the same way that a reflectored light can but that is the whole point isn’t it :slight_smile: And then again if it is a aspheric lens in a zoomie I just slightly unfocus it to enlarge the target area.

But if “WOW” that is bright is the point then a reflectored light works best on friends because they can compare it to the maglite or other lights that they know whereas the aspheric light beam apparently seem odd and alien to them. But somehow also draw them. Go figure that one out - I haven’t :wink:

Anyhow this is not written to end the discussions about the “best light” or “best flood” or “best throw” differences between reflectored lights and apheric lights. That has been tried over and over on every light forum I’ve ever seen and it doesn’t work that way. It is merely to point out that this is what works best for me and as I wrote to TroopLevis: To each their own.

Oh and I forgot: I am SOOO disappointed with the SIPIK company! BAD COMPANY, BAD BAD BAD!
To market this without proper heat sinking. I feel so let down and I am sorry if anyone bought this light because of this thread and feel like they wasted money. I used my sipik sk68’s for years. More or less since they came out. And they never let me down, I like the design and the clip and in fact the whole package. So I was stoked when I saw the pictures on Manafont. Hoping for a complete upscaling of the 68 model to the 98 model was apparently too much to ask for so to the Sipik company all I want to say is

Sorry.