Any estimates of sustained brightness in the WT3M ?
Note the battery size restrictions listed in the OP.
Driver is, I guess, an older BLF design with 3 channels: a single 7135, bank of 7135's, and a direct FET channel. I wouldn't call it low cost - it is, after all, a driver running Anduril with 3 output channels, 2 of which are amp regulated. PWM's are used though throughout the ramping range, accept for Max/turbo but the PWM speed is very high at about 16 kHz.
Thank you for your answer.
So, nothing special…
Maybe not, but IME this WT1M is DEFINITELY special. the quality of the reflector / beam centering & focusing / build quality / and aesthetics / UI, for under $30 ?!?
I mean i dont know what your definition of special is, but after buying numerous $50-$100 lights where i need work on dialing in the beam for a quality looking beam, and getting this THIRTY DOLLAR WildTrail WT1m and have the beam look PERFECT ..
that is special to me.
The driver, i could care less about really, especially since the UI is on point.
Just looked at this again and Aliexpress now has free shipping to my area, (was $50.65) and a $2 coupon that brings the price to $37 for WT3M XHP50.2 and $23 for WT1M SST40. Great prices on what look to be very nice lights.
BG just delayed shipping again for another week so I’ll cancel my BG order tomorrow and order at Ali. Good deal.
thanks for the heads up! Dude, the wt1m is really impressive. Just the beam quality alone, I'm ordering a second one now. I want the "3M", but this 1m is just so awesome, it needs a green CSLPM1 led, or maybe a CULPM1 Osram. Either way, my second is getting an Osram
You have misunderstood Gregor.
Gregor has asked if these flashlights had any faults to be aware of before buying them. “Tom E” has answered a couple of small “failures” that they have, and then “Gregor” has replied that “nothing special then”, that the “failures” were nothing serious. He was referring to the faults, not the flashlights.
These flashlights are wonderful considering their price.
my fault, apologies Gregor..
I was responding to what I thought was Gregor's reaction to: "does this light have a modern driver or low cost driver".
I get a bit HOT when I sense there is someone dwelling on a lights overall quality based on whether it has a complex buck/boost driver, and no consideration is given to any other aspect of the light. On a $100 light, yes, a intelligent efficient driver may be expected, but on a sub $50 light i don't see how it would be expected... there is one member who comes to mind that spews about this, but it is not Gregor. So I apologize..
this light is awesome.
both lights I've bought from them have been exceptional.
I received my WT3M today. When I screw the battery tube on, the emitters activate automatically. I can access candle mode when the emitters are on low like this so I guess the light thinks it’s off. Is there an easy fix for this? XHP50 version.
It’s a dead 7135 that needs to be replaced, no easy fix sorry.
Any advice on course of action? Is this a random, one-off event or will a replacement flashlight likely have the same issue?
Not unless you get a double dose of bad luck.
I had it happens on a light (not out of the box), seemingly randomly.
Alright. I’ll reach out to Wild Trail through their Ali Express store tomorrow unless there is a better way of contacting them?
Yes, this is correct.
No need to apologize.
Sorry for confusion caused.
Which shop has best prices for these two FL?
Thanks
Ok great. thanks!
I just bought a second WT1M from WildTrail's shop on AliX. Great price, $31 shipped (no free shipping to me at the moment).
If it is in fact hitting 93kcd with the SST40, it is punching above it’s weight vs average reflectors by about 10%.
Hopefully they repeat this magic with the SFT40 version
So.. I think its kitting more, i will test tomorrow Early morning. Unless the W2 KR1 is way less than 100kcd.. Because the sst40 WT1m BLOWS my kR1 away (visually). It is REALLY impressive. It is PERFECTLY focused
Keep in mind, I measured 8.9 amps at the tail on my WT1M SST-40 on a fully charged 40T. So if you run tests with the stock tail assembled, like I do, it's probably running at lower amps. A bypass of the tail spring will negate the drop and be much closer to the measured tail amps.
I didn't take my throw #'s at 30 secs, but rather measured them after the 30 secs lumens test, waited a cool down period of 5 mins, then used a 5 sec pause on max before pointing it to the meter. My result this way was 93 kcd. Lately I've been recording 3 numbers for lumens test: start, 10s, then 30s. It's interesting to see the majority of the drop occurs in the first 10 seconds, like always.
Interesting that it's performing so well. The head diam puts it in the C8 class, and with all the great OSRAM LED's as of late, guess the # didn't get me much excited. Re-measuring it, I get 44.8 mm head diam, and 35.5 mm inner of the bezel, which probably matches the I.D. of the reflector. C8 reflectors are typically around 37.5 mm I.D. according to my notes, which would make them better throwers in theory. But from BLF history and my own experience, we found some C8 replacement SMO reflectors definitely had better throw than others.
Yes, i need to check with my lux meter before i make any claims, especially since you did the proper testing. But i will say i had a 5000k M21c Convoy (basically the C8 with a 21700 battery) and this thing visually throws much better.
And to attest to your comment "some C8s with SMO perform better than others" - as much as i love my Convoys, all of them, you are 100% right! some of my Convoys centering and beam tuning is ... not so great.. while others are perfect (cough cough.. L21a with SFT40 .. is perfect).
This WT WT1M is really satisfying, even though the head is slightly smaller then the C8, it is much more fun for me. Plus that green glowing side switch and awesome machining really sets it apart. For a C8 price tag nonetheless.