[review] Wurkkos TS21 21700 light, 4000K!

Neutral-White and camo !

Forgive my ignorance, but what would the advantages of the 219C be? Better tint? Output? Lower temperature? All I know is people love them, but I’m curious as to the specific benefits.

that is the high CRI and good beam color

Got it. I’d be interested if TS21 w/219C had Anduril 2 and power bank functionality.

219C LED version will do if reach a lowest Assembly line quantity >100 pieces :person_facepalming:

Great tint and CRI, but lower output

I signed up to these forums just to say I agree on 219c (or any high efficiency diode with 90+ CRI).

Also better run time is a must. Turbo drops down to an embarrassing ~200 lumens fairly quickly. The combination of a more efficient LED with a buck driver could help keep a much higher sustained output.

Maybe call it TS25 and sell it for more. I’d pay.

Nice to have bonus features: tail switch and a green or tan/sand colour…. But now I’m just being greedy lol

It's nice to see you, dondizzurp!

:sunglasses:

Anyone not having the switch light bug and parasitic drain?

Unno. Remind me what those were?

I haven’t noticed any problems, but maybe none showed up (yet?).

Okay, I literally read each msg in this thread, and didn’t see any mention of switch bugs or drain problems.

Mine hasn’t come in yet so I’m hoping some are ok. The first issue is the blue switch light comes on randomly. No biggie. The stand by drain is being reported at something like 13mA on high. Low is too low to see.

IIRC, your review, and the first one I got to give away, were Andruil 1. Have a new one now with Andruil 2 and the switch light is different. Personally I think 1. the positives out way the negatives for me and 2. I think it is likely that whatever is going on will be caught and fixed in a firmware revision.

Will have to wait until after Christmas to more fully test. However, my limited testing shows a drain of about .14 mA. Yes the light is very very dim at that setting. I have no desire to have it higher so for me this will not be an issue. I like the fact that it gets brighter and changes color when it draws more than the regulated current. That is useful to me. The random turn on of a bright blue light means nothing to me. Figuring out the changing between blue and orange might be useful as I think it is intentional and supposed to be telling us something but I haven’t figured that out yet.

Still think this is a fantastic light! Seems to me that moonlight is much better with Andruil 2 so for that reason alone I am happy with it. The ability to use as a powerbank should really be an outstanding addition. However, I don’t have the cabling and perhaps it isn’t even useable outside of USB C to USB C? My phone is micro USB. If it will function as a powerbank with a USB C to micro USB cable that would be fantastic for me and I suspect the USB C to USB C powerbank function is already fantastic for many people.

Frankly I am prone to just loosening the tail cap when worried about accidental activation already. If I were going to keep a light on reserve so to speak for long periods of time I would definitely just do that and parasitic drain would be eliminated anyway.

The problem is definitely not in the firmware and can't be fixed in the firmware.

If you have the version with the amber switch LED, then all reported on have the bugs. Barry said they are going to change to a different USB-C charging controller that should solve the problems. It's not just this light, couple of other new designs by Sofirn too, like the Astrolux EC06 made by Sofirn.

The amber LED goes from extremely dim on low to extremely bright on high.

Tom,

Thank you for your time and expertise on this. I thought it was firmware as the first one did not exhibit the behavior. Sorry to mislead anyone.

The amber is indeed very dim but the drain is good enough for me and I don’t care that it is dim. About the only thing I even use that light for is to see when it is above regulation. Mine appears to do that correctly as the amber gets bright when it goes above that level (I assume, not actually measured).
Do you know why the blue sometimes alternates with the amber? On mine, when I go to the top of the ramp it is bright amber for a while and then it will pulse with the blue. Looks to me like it could be either a voltage sag or thermal regulation that is triggering that. Does not appear to be for certain random to me. The switch light coming on bright blue does appear to be random but does not bother me.

OTOH, it just occurred to me that I really do like the switch light on my SC31 Pro and it also changes brightness at least when the power goes above regulation. The light is actually useful to find the switch yet drain is a complete non-issue for me. Can see why people are bothered by the behavior you have described. I probably should be too;-) Just love the new and improved moonlight with this revision so I guess it’s easy for me to live with a switch light that is dim and then somewhat unpredictable.

The Blue LED is completely controlled by the charging circuit, not the MCU, not Anduril.

The Injoinic IP5310 is the USB-C controller, datasheet PDF found here(link is external). It can be wired up, configured in various different ways. To me it seems like the chip is getting confused with a charging cycle completed, or discharging as if it's a power bank. The EC06 uses the same chip configured for 2 LED's, in the TS21, it's probably configured for 1 LED, but the datasheet mostly covers the 4 LED mode, where the LED's light to show 25/50/75/100% capacity. So I wonder if it's just buggy in 2 or 1 LED modes.

If you plug in a USB-C to charge the battery, it blinks blue. If you pull it out before completed, it stays on steady for a while before turning OFF, and the time it stays on steady is about the same length of time we've been seeing it come on by itself.

Interesting that the blue light is part of the USB C circuit. Have not even pulled the rubber cover on mine let alone plug any USB cable in. Not sure why it would be pulsating with the amber when the light is just being used.

Not at all.

Good to hear.