Unpleasant surprises

I am afraid we are all missing the important question here: “95 Saturn wagon, not quite 80k miles.”. What? How is that possible?

Anyway, best of luck with the oil filter, I have nothing to add over what the others have already said.

I stopped changing my own oil when the price of oil went way up. My local garage does it for about $10 more than the cost of filter and 5 quarts of oil plus he will grease any odd fittings for me. A large pair of pump pliers should get your stuck filter off if you can get them in there and have room to turn.

https://www.harborfreight.com/locking-oil-filter-wrench-63696.html Is there room to get this in near the base plate? I looked at one video of that vehicle and it is showing a view from underneath but also talking about removing the tire and getting at it in that direction. Are you working from the wheel well or underneath or both? The view wasn’t that great from underneath.

A coil spring filter wrench grips tighter as more torque is applied to the hex head. It won't collapse the can. Indispensable when swing area around the filter is limited and access can only be had from the end of the filter. There are two sizes. Link below is just for example, as I cannot ascertain quality to recommend this particular item.

https://www.ebay.com/p/15017011598

slmjim

Use this next time :

Both.

When I go out there I’ll take a photo. Next try is a filter socket. The filter is still mostly solid with only minor dents and two nice clean holes with no tearing of the metal.

When I do get the filter off it will never be a problem again. I have a dual filter relocation kit that will make filter removal much easier and avoid oil in the filter fron draining on the rubber boot.

I do not recommend Fram filters. The grip is nice, but cut one open and compared it to a better brand and you’ll see why.

Get Wix, Puralator, Bosch

I hate my car so i’ll stick with Fram but thx anyway :+1:

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Amen to that. I used Fram for years until I finally realized how terrible they actually were.

It is Wix, Baldwin, or Bosch for me now.

I would not try the screwdriver through the filter trick. I’ve seen them just tear through a filter too, and then you’re left much worse off than when you started.

If you’re going to go at it from the end I think I would try this thing. Below. Although some of the cap type Socket/wrenches
do fit pretty nice, most do not If you can have an identical new filter in your hand to test fit some of those cap type sockets that’s a good thing.
Lisle Oil filter wrench review. It saved me from a lot of work! - YouTube So even with a hole all the way through both sides and some sort of a giant bar you cannot move it, or is it that you can’t get a large enough bar on there?

Currently has a federated filter. Previously I usually used mobil1. I’ll probably use mobil1 again.

You can tell you live in the salt belt. :smiley:

Run the engine for a while to get it up to temp, then try to remove the filter. Heat helps. Or is it too late for that now? Also, hit it with a mallet while using one of your wrenches. This might take two people and a metal rod or something to reach it, but the shock from the impact can help to break it loose.

He put a hole in the oil filter. It ain’t gonna run now.

Check if you can fit an oil filter cap on it and use a sprocket/breaker bar on that. Go easy on the breaker bar.
If it fails then attach that to a hammer drill. Start slow.

One of these (find the size for your car)
https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/motomaster-cap-wrench-0283574p.0283575.html

Longer screwdriver(or other hardened solid 3/8 rod), or put a pipe on that one and put the orange plier things on the end at the same time. If you can get an extra person and one person is at the wheel well and one person is underneath with the orange pliers it should go. I suspect I would be grabbing it with my 16 in Irwin vise grip Vjaw groove lock pliers. Or if my 20-in channel lock v jaw pliers would fit in there I might use those.

Looks like there might be room to lightly use a butane torch. I know you don’t want to do that so perhaps a heat gun? Unless you started this with the engine hot, I think that a little bit of heat will take care of it for you. OTOH, I’ve never had one that I couldn’t get with the pliers you have already tried. Messed up the can pretty good (worse than what yours is so far) but they have always came loose as the can collapsed.

Things like this happen and they really suck! You will get it eventually! I think what I hate most about things like this is how it erases the hundreds of times things go as they should in the mind of my wife :wink:

Is the problem not enough grip on the filter, or not enough torque to dislodge it? Different approaches for each…

Also, if the filter screws in or on the mount. In, you chill it. On, you heat it.

Etc.