KC1 keychain light is available now

Any word on whether E21A will be an option for tint ramping? I’d love to do a 3500k / 2000k…

Hello, any problems with manufacturing? Or delayed because of SFT-40? Maybe you can make SBT90.2 version in meantime :slight_smile:

I think Hank should release a "s" version of this exact light (DM11s), that has a reflector, and sbt90.2 LED

:))

Dumb question: is this the same optic used in the manker MC13? I love the beam profile but the output feels weak with the W1 when using outdoors. I’d rather sacrifice some throw for double the lumens, SFT40 would be perfect.

I believe it’s the same. At the very least, it’s in the same optic family. The angle may or may not be slightly different.

Somewhere between 2mm² and 4mm² is the Goldilocks zone for this sized optic for use as a mid range thrower imo. I swapped a boost HX into my X1L and its a great ‘scanning’ pocket thrower. The loss in throw I would exchange any day for the lumens / beam angle. If the Yinding round 5050 didn’t have terrible tint, that would be the undisputed winner for nearly all throwers between 25 and 50mm bezel. The W1 for me drops out of favor right around 38-40mm, unless an aspheric/fresnel is being used with zero spill.

great info! Thanks for that, as I have been eyeing the X1L for about a month now, wondering how it'd be with a CULPM1 in it. I'm also thinking about putting a CULPM1 in my mc13

My X1L is currently in the ‘broken down’ pile. I hated the UI soooo much I just couldn’t stand it — I destroyed the driver trying to mod it. That and I think the best intensity numbers I got were like 110 or 115kcd iirc with the HL so i couldn’t justify it over my convoy m2 w1 (103kcd t.o.) with a forward clicky and one mode ui (how I like my throwers). The DM11 gets everything right here for me except its a side switch. I just have a really hard time with those ergonomically. Ymmv

I’m holding out for the ‘KR4S’ still. That is a 21700 KR4 with D4S optic. ‘KR1S’ could be the natural single emitter twin.

Please hank. I beg you <3

I’d buy that. It would basically look like a slightly upsized KR1 right? KR1 is possibly the most attractive and most ergonomic light I’ve ever used.

I’d also buy a 21700 light that’s between D4V2 and D4SV2 in size, like Sofirn IF22A, just with all the Hank features.

It might be time for me to make another light design that Hank will never produce, haha.

Ah, well good info again.. I forgot that the X1l has a different UI. I also would love this KR4s you speak of - the LEDIL optic is one of my favorite (and i think a Hank community favorite too), and I would be even more excited about the KR1s. I like the ergo's of the KR1 a ton. I have been rebuilding D1, and the KR1 still has an advantage, smaller lights like these, for me, need tail switches. One reason ive never really enjoyed the D4v2 - too small with a side switch.

Lets talk about new emitter options, shall we?

I’ll start, Nichia 519A R9080 that can be run at XPL-HI currents…

This looked very promising and exciting, until I used a DUV calculator to get the DUV from the X and Y values and saw that it is above BBL.

How much?

BTW not all is looking for pink beam. Sometimes (many times) neutral is what we need and to be run at 5Amp

True but not much (0.0015~0.0020), and for B35As Nichia reports turned out to be sligtly higher than what I got in diffusing optics at low currents, furthermore it decreases significantly at high currents (I binned about 10 of them), note that 519A and B35A uses the same chip.

The 519A also has the particularity of having the phosphor encapsulated in a glass lens with a silicone dome on top, dedoming it should be very straightforward, probably just by popping off the dome, which should lower the duv and significantly increase throw. This being (hopefully) much simpler to do reliably compared to other LEDs (all silicone) I would imagine that Hank could consider offering them domed and dedomed.

That said a ”k” bin bellow the BBL would be the best, I wonder if with enough order quantity one can request a custom chromacity.

Well, that would be another light I’d be required to buy.

i think a lot of people would buy it. And it may not be too much difficulty for him if he only offered 1 emitter option in the reflector version- the sbt90.2. That would mean only 1 reflector design would be necessary. Of course it would need a different driver than "regular dm11." but, maybe K1 driver could be used?

I don't know, something worth bringing up to Hank.

519A is pretty exciting - like an LH351D with better color.

It’s the B35A I’m excited about seeing in production lights though, in large part because it forces the use of a boost driver. I still hope Hank decides some day to produce a slim (18650, but slimmer than the D4) single-emitter light with the B35A. I’d probably need several of those (don’t worry, I’m definitely buying a DM11).

Any new news Hank?

How large does the DM11 b35am beam look compared to the DM11 sft40 beam?

Any chance we could see a picture of the 2 hotspots next to each other?

Yes, please refer to this image.