Lumintop Ant Man (14500 LEP flashlight)

Hm… Not that impressive.

I wonder if it can be modded to higher output. Maybe replace the driver with a higher power one. I’m not familiar with lasers though. I wonder if a higher power driver might fry the laser module. I recall reading lasers are more sensitive than LEDs.

As-is, the main purpose the Ant Man looks to be as a toy for your cat. Safer to have the kitty chasing around the Ant Man’s beam, than the green beam from a $2 laser pointer cat toy.

I bet a collared nm1 would far outperform this lep module. I would be curious to hook it up to a bench supply and try 4.4V

Thank you for the review. I was really wanting this light, but I think I will pass now. I will continue to edc my modded gt micro. Hopefully lumintop makes a version 2 of the ant with higher kcd and Lumens.
Their new lumintop fw1aa with the nm1 might be a better purchase…?

What a very underwhelming result. But I am in agreement with you about the looks - I think it’s a very nice-looking design and good aesthetic. Just a shame that the performance doesn’t match the cool looks.

Yeah, Lumintop is spiraling down recently. Mediocre performance although Thor 1 is nealy the same size (module).

Lumintop, wake up.

Yes, I wonder what made them make this one so different? The battery power of a 18350 is not that much higher, maybe the narrow space inside the Ant Man only fit a smaller less powerful laser? It runs at under 1A and gives off three times less light as the Thor I. And then going for an extra small 13.5mm lens does not help either.

Some calculations based on my (450kcd) 4Tool L10 : with the 400lm module of the 4Tool, a 13.5mm lens should throw 130kcd. If a 16mm lens was used in the Ant Man + a 400lm module, throw goes up to 180kcd.

Some things were likely not possible because of the size, but also some things were not engineered well enough by Lumintop.

It’s really too bad.

This light would have been an absolute must-have if:

  • its output was 400 lumens; and
  • it used a 16mm lens; and
  • it had a sliding bezel to make it a zoomie

As-is, I’ll pass unless some modder reports that output can be massively cranked up either by modding or replacing the driver.

Thank you for looking into this light.
IMHO it complies with the three major criteria specified by Lumintop.

1/ We need a new LEP light
2/ We need it to be 14500
3/ We need it fast.

Apparently the looks are good and the feel is good.
So it is a dream light for every customer who thinks the criteria are sufficient.

Thanks to you I’ll stick to my old fashioned led-light 14500 for the time being.
And wait for the first member who can spice this LEP up a bit.

What light is doing better after 4 minutes at 100, 200, 300 meters. Or if you’re in the field with a battery that’s down at 3.7 volts. I’m going to assume that the Ant-Man is not going to get too hot.

Yes, that’s where LEP shine I guess!

I’m not sure that this light perform well with a depleting battery, if it does not have a boost driver (as I expect sofar) the output will go down faster than the battery voltage, blue lasers work at higher voltage than blue leds. But I may be a bit fast with my conclusion, must do the runtime test first to be sure.

You beat me!

Oh, and your serial number is the same as mine

Doing a runtime test while we speak.. battery I use is also a Vapcell 10H

I am not surprised it's not reaching the claimed output, but it's a pity it's not reaching the claimed 87000 cd.

edit… If it’s drawing less than 1 amp it’s hard to imagine why the battery choice matters much. I think I would recommend trying to get an amp draw starting at 4.0 volts. What lights and batteries do for the first minute at 4.2 volts on batteries doesn’t help in the real world. Assuming everybody’s using flat tops?. Does it have springs on both ends?

No, only spring at the tailcap

I'm not so sure that Marvel would approve of the name of this flashlight.

They probably have the name "Ant Man" copyrighted.

I totally did! :stuck_out_tongue:
But I’m very curious about your copy’s performance, I may have gotten a dud.

The full name is Lumintop Ant Man Thor Mini :smiley:

I just ran the runtime test... but using the same sphere + luxmeter for another runtime test, so can't look at the data yet :D

The battery is almost finished charging, so I can measure lumen in my other sphere.

SMine didn't turn off after the runtime test, but was still at sub lumen output. The Voltage, however, was still 3.4V when I pulled it.

Ok, I got the following: highest measurement (about 2-3 seconds after turn on) was 162 lumens.

After 30 seconds: 156 lumens

Will do some throw measurements soon

Edit: just measured at 20 meters: 68,400 cd which is close to Djozz, but my lumen numbers are higher

Oh wow, that’s worse than expected.

I think Lumintop has introduced the 14500 LEP category, but done it with a bit of a loser. Other than looks. They’re setting themselves up to get really leapfrogged by someone with actually 400 lumens and a 16mm lens.

It’s a shame disassembly of these LEPs is prohibitive, I’d otherwise love to see it.