Monster light Trustfire x100

TR-J18 runs with 3*26650 or 3*18650. X100 runs with 4!

Oh yeah, I missed that, thanks. I thought the 7.5 A was battery current but I see now that it's "regulated" 7.5 A so it must be the LED current. Gee, if that 7.5 A figure is true, it's only pushing about 25 W into the LEDs. Some of the 3x XM-L lights are doing 30 W or more already, so what would be the point in manufacturing this huge light driven at only 25 W?

I hope the 7.5 is a typo. Or, if the 7.5 A turns out to be the battery current, now we're talking...

7.5 A x 4 x 3.5 V (approx. battery voltage under load) = 105 W

driver efficiency = 80% approx. ==> 84 W reaching LEDs.

12 W per LED ==> about 3.5 A per LED. That would be awesome but the light would get stinkin' hot, fast.

The heads only 75mm

Looks interesting, but aside from using 4*26550 not sure its really any different than the J18; so then the current price would make it a hard sell.

Oh...another X100 thread.

We need 9 XM-L heads now. Then we can stuff 3 x DRY drivers inside and use 3 x 26650 IMRs or King kongs. Hehe.... In High it should do approx 5000 lumens OTF? (IIRC it is about 1700L OTF in High with fresh cells). Turbo, if the batteries can take it then 7500L OTF is doable.

In Thai forum, Trustfire X100 tested

3 cells tail cap draw about 4A
4 cells ——— 2.3 – 2.4A

4A x 12.6V = 50.4 W pulled from cells
50.4W x .80efficiency(typ) = 40.32W into LED array
40.32W / 7LED = 5.76W/LED
5.76W / 3.4Vf = 1.69A per XML (assuming 3.4Vf)

So on paper it should be more lumens than the TR-J18/J12, and the bigger reflectors will project a tighter beam. It draws almost double the power of the TR-J12.

When measured 4A @ tail cap mean Vload for 1 cell is about 3.3 - 3.7V, depend on type of batteries.

3 cells @ 4A , 9.9V - 11.1 V about 42W

Guys,

Just buy you a TK70 and stop messing with these that aren’t going to work near as well. You will be money ahead.

Wow!!!

I just broke 2 of my fingers and spent 12k on surgery though, just came back frm surgery fitting titanium plates. :frowning: explosion.

I’m sorry to hear that, get well soon :slight_smile:

After the accident, realised that life is short. need to get more lights. :smiley:

2.3-2.4A seems to be near the original triple XM-L SR3800….but that’s like 2.55A 2 cells but for 3 XM-L. This is with 1 extra XM-L for slightly better efficiency. I think this one could be like ~ 3200 lumens OTF. Cool!

So exactly what happened?

Exploded 18650 in light. Nah….i was pumpimg up those pressurised sprayer and pumping it when it exploded.

A 18650/26650 sure can do as much damage in a flashlight if one is not careful. Use protected cells for day-day usage and do monitor voltages.

Very difficult to type now.

Oh right… my calcs above neglected Vload<Vno-load for each cell.

Under load cell-V drops and the calculation looks like this with estimated Vload=3.5V (I normally use Vnom = 3.6V for calcs like this)
4A x 10.5 = 42 W pulled from cells
42 x .80efficiency(typ) = 33.6W into LED array
33.6W / 7LED = 4.8W/LED
4.8W / 3.4Vf = 1.41A per XML (assuming 3.4Vf)

Slightly less than the previous calculation at 4.2Vbatt

At this load, Vf of XM-L will be rather lower, around 3.2 / maybe lower with good chip.

Holy s#!& - I hope you heal up quickly.

At least you didn’t have the thing clamped tightly between your thighs, for leverage. Typing would have been the _last _of your worries.

LOL! I was actually pumping it on a stool which is at the thigh level! So i am unlucky and lucky in a sense!

Just happened recently.

Woman kills man by squeezing his testicles over parking dispute.

http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/thread-744542-1-1.html

Anyway the Solarstorm is not driven that high, at 2700L OTF as the 2A driver is not “stable”. So not sure which one to aim for. But i’ll surely use protected cells here which i’d test conscientiously!

1.40A to LED is 3192L OTF.

To give an idea on the heat levels, the Trustfire TR-3T6 triple XM-L with 1300L OTF is driven to such levels. This light has 7 T6 but quite a bit bigger. 1.12kg is no joke with most of it at the head. TK70 is 769g. But i suspect that 1.12kg is in error.

Ok I’m getting 4 26170s and running this baby shorty!