Which movie did you watch lastֻ

They Shall Not Grow Old.

100% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Rather because this movie is shallow, script is bad and looks and feels like B-movie pulp.
It’s good, that not everyone admire that garbage, what is reflected on IMDB.
Margot must have big mortgage to pay if she act in this “movie”

And Black Canary… :person_facepalming:

What are you basing that off of besides how much you enjoyed the film? Maybe others didn’t share your enthusiasm.

[quote=raccoon city] And you think that many comic book nerds aren't misogynistic? [/quote]

I don't assume that comic book fans are more misogynistic as a group than any other. You have to remember that online feedback is literally a vocal minority in almost every case. Product reviews for example, bear this out. Lots of people can't be arsed to leave their opinions online and those that do are often angry for some reason. I believe this is why paid reviews are such an issue on Amazon. Sellers are trying to offset the negative vocal minority who got lemons or had bad shipping experiences.

[quote=raccoon city] Do you remember their response when the all-female Ghostbusters was announced? They lost their ****. [/quote]

I see the extensive attention those comments got as a smokescreen. Like I said, Hollywood as a whole is not a champion for women's rights. But if they can convince people that anyone not watching their movie is a misogynist, then societal pressure will force many people to buy tickets who otherwise wouldn't have. I'm not surprised that there were some misogynist comments; there are so many people in the world that there is bound to be a couple of bad eggs leaving nasty comments on everything. I just don't think it's representative of how most people are. "News" sites also love to spread nasty news like that because it gets clicks and views.

[quote=raccoon city] Also, the new Dune movie currently has an 8.2, and the original has a 6.4 Yet the original is a much more entertaining movie. Although the new Dune movies isn't technically a remake, it could easily pass as one. The new Dune movie has more in common with the original Dune than the Ghostbusters reboot has in common with the original Ghostbusters. [/quote]

Firstly, that's 100% your opinion on the entertainment front. That's subjective. Secondly, the situations were very different; Ghostbusters (2016) was a remake of a beloved classic while Dune (2021) was a remake of a critical failure.

The Dune novel was award-winning. It won the Hugo award and the first Nebula award for best novel. It has had a dedicated fanbase among sci-fi readers since 1965. The 1984 film may have been more entertaining minute-to-minute for some, but it was not a good adaption of that book. Objectively speaking, the 1984 Dune also had some issues with story structure and pacing due to condensing such a long and slow book into a 2 hr long movie. The special affects were also a product of their time. The lengthy expositional narration in the beginning is an example of how not to convey information in a film. David Lynch disowned the 1984 Dune due to studio meddling and hasn't been interested in blockbusters since.

If you doubt the relevance of book-readers at the box office, look at how the Narnia series declined in reception as they strayed further from the books with each installment. The effect was so severe that the series was cut short.

All in all, I think there are a lot of good reasons for the scores these two movies have.

Of course.

Just like your posts are based on your opinion.

No kidding!

Just like your posts are based on your opinion and are subjective.

We're allowed to have differing opinions, by the way.

If you don't agree with me, that's fine, but don't act like your posts aren't based on your opinion.

I can’t believe I went to all that trouble to write out a thoughtful response and your response is just, “Well, that’s like your opinion man.” Stupid me. Won’t waste my time in the future.

Sorry, but criticizing me because parts of my posts are based on my opinion is not "a thoughtful response."

Parts of your posts are based on your opinion, as well, but I'm not stooping to your level and criticizing you because we have different opinions.

1. My sentences often begin with qualifiers like, “I believe”, “I feel”, and “I see” when I want to be clear that something is based on my thoughts and reasoning.

2. You stated your opinions about BoP and Dune as facts and treated them like evidence. e.g. Somehow, your enjoyment-based opinion that Birds of Prey deserved a 7.5/10 and got a 6.1/10 is some kind of smoking gun.

3. You ignored all of my larger points to accuse me of criticizing your for having a different opinion, which I did not do. I pointed out that your opinions do not constitute evidence and/or were not facts.

4. I backed up my opinions with facts and reasoning and you didn’t take the time to do the same in response.

Sorry, but I did not state my opinions as fact.

I also don't have to back up opinions with facts--they're opinions.

I don't have to start my sentences with “I believe”, “I feel”, and “I see” just because they are opinions.

People express opinions all the time without “I believe”, “I feel”, or “I see.”

Plus, this thread in particular is about people's opinions of movies, so the vast majority of the views expressed will be opinions.

You criticize me for stating my opinion, all the meanwhile stating your own opinion.

That is the act of a hypocrite, and that is the problem I have with you.

By the way, I don't have a problem with your opinions.

We are all entitled to our opinions.

Now, if you don't mind, this argument is getting old, so why don't we just agree to disagree?

This is England series.
First of it all I really like and admire Shane Meadows and his movies. Dead Man’s Shoes, Somers Town, A Room for Romeo Brass, TwentyFourSeven are foking brilliant.
They have a story, meaning, are different that all mainstream shit. Makes you think, not just swallow pulp served.
Are they good? I enjoyed it, it’s one of the movies I would watch again. There are not many.
First is This Is England 2006

Followed by TV series:
This Is England ’86

and
This Is England ’88

and
This Is England ’90

You said, "That doesn't explain why Birds of Prey currently has a 6.1 on IMDb. It should have at least a 7.5." Your opinion is that BoP should have a 7.5/10 but the way you phrase this makes it sound like 7.5 is the answer to a mathematical equation.

It'd be like a math student saying, I don't understand how 5x+7 = 12. I think 5x+7 = 17. It's as if the student has already solved for X in a separate problem and had determined the value of X is 2.

When I asked, "What are you basing that off of besides how much you enjoyed the film?" I was asking what you thought X was. What is the factor that makes your conclusion make sense? You ignored the question and just got angry.

[quote=raccoon city] I also don't have to back up opinions with facts--they're opinions. [/quote] As far as I know that's how discussions work. If someone asks you about an opinion or challenges it, you explain your reasoning or offer some supporting facts. Avoiding that is avoiding discussion.

[quote=raccoon city] I don't have to start my sentences with “I believe”, “I feel”, and “I see” just because they are opinions. People express opinions all the time without “I believe”, “I feel”, or “I see.” [/quote] I didn't say you did. That wasn't why I brought it up. I was trying to demonstrate the difference in the way we were using our opinions in relation to our assertions.

[quote=raccoon city] Plus, this thread in particular is about people's opinions of movies, so the vast majority of the views expressed will be opinions. [/quote] Again, opinions are not the problem. Using an opinion to bolster an argument rather than explaining your thought process or pointing out facts is what is bothering me. If you don't want to discuss it, say " I don't want to discuss it" rather than blustering about all posts being opinion-based.

[quote=raccoon city] You criticize me for stating my opinion, all the meanwhile stating your own opinion. [/quote] No, again. I pointed out that a statement you made was based on opinion and invited you to explain your reasoning. You did not explain. Ask me to explain an opinion I have and I absolutely will.

[quote=raccoon city] That is the act of a hypocrite, and that is the problem I have with you. [/quote] Nice, just attack my character. Don't explain any positions you hold or ask me about mine. Just go straight for my character.

[quote=raccoon city] By the way, I don't have a problem with your opinions. [/quote] You could have fooled me. I took the time to explain my reasoning and you ignored it almost completely. I bet you didn't even read everything I wrote.

[quote=raccoon city] We are all entitled to our opinions. [/quote] Definitely, but if our posts were to consist of us simply stating our opinions and nobody ever questioned or explained anything then this would not be a discussion board, it would be an opinion board.

[quote=raccoon city] Now, if you don't mind, this argument is getting old, so why don't we just agree to disagree? [/quote] Thanks to you avoiding all discussion revolving around the original topic, I have no idea exactly what we disagree on there. But apparently we disagree on what constitutes a discussion.

Seems like your definition of a discussion is something like this:

P1: Hi, here is my opinion

P2: That's nice

P2: Here is my opinion

P1. That's nice

P2. ...............

P1. ...............

P1. Have a nice day

P2. Yea you too.

This exchange may be considered a more-or-less pleasant exchange but it is not a true exchange of ideas. It is the most superficial interaction possible.

I forgot which one was the last. No Time to Die or Radioactive.

Nobody f*$#s with The Jesus.

That creep can roll man!

8-year-olds, dude.

I really need to watch that…

Edit: someone said/posted something earlier about the dialogue in movies (Dune specifically, but then a link to stuff about theater sound etc…)…
I feel like I mentioned this already…if so I apologize, but I’ve taken to watching everything with subtitles on because of tinnitus + random noises (wife + airplanes). Makes a HUGE difference.

I actually watched Dune at home first, then my friends (who’d been on vacation) came back and wanted to see it in the theater. Couldn’t make out half the dialogue, and also weirdly a lot of the scenes were way too dark to see (I remember a scene with the Harkonnen + The Duke, cutting to a Buffalo head on the wall, couldn’t see the Buffalo head…)

Oh, and if you watch South Park, you get to see what Kenny says…so I’ve been told…:stuck_out_tongue:

I have some trouble understanding what some people say, so I watch everything with subtitles, if I can.

Most of the time, I understand what they say without the subtitles, but I enjoy reading along as well.

agree with azj and raccoon city….subtitles are great.

Dune, especially.
even the kids could not hear all the words.
yes, parents asking their child: “what did she say?”

  • she said - this movie is boring. lol.

I don’t think Dune is geared towards kids lol