What about the CRI hype (color rendering index)

a green filter lowers efficacy… if efficacy is the priority, you need a green LED, not a filter

I agree green is monochromatic… it just has the highest efficacy,
I only suggested it as you mentioned that efficacy is your highest priority…

maybe you dont really want highest efficacy after all?:slight_smile:

choices are good
I like green much better than red… but I like High CRI most of all

but, dont copy me, unless you share my priority, which is Full Spectrum Quality… not partial spectrum Quantity

maybe read more

:+1: :slight_smile: :smiley:

Exactly. There is no correct and same answer for all people. Just like a whole lot of other things in life, the answer depends upon many variables.

I have made the journey from “I must have the absolute most number of lumens possible and the color/CRO does not matter” to where I do look at the CRI and what the intended use is. I have a few very bright, low CRI lights that fulfill certain uses. Most of the lights I use frequently have high to very high CRI and I can see the difference. Seeing, or appreciating that difference, took some time to develop to where I gave it some serious thought.

“Different strokes for different folks” as we used to quip back in the 60’s. :laughing:

There is nothing here to have an argument over.

Walking in the forest was where I first really noticed how much better I liked the illumination qualities of my then-new high CRI light compared to the max lumens lights I had been using.

I used to be all about efficiency. But then I had a hike where a poor CRI made it hard for me to distinguish the details of the trail under my feet. This was slightly dangerous and made me much slower. And required my full attention to tread carefully.

Since then, I think that flashlights shall have high enough colour rendition. But so far I failed to determine what exactly is high enough. :wink:

Also, world in high CRI and below BBL just looks better. I like to live in a good looking world.

It is not simply the efficacy of the led. What colors the eye sees best is also a consideration.

It is for phosphor converted green, but not direct green ( XP-E)

For example CSLNM1.F1 (PC green) : 400~630lm at 1A
CSLNM1.TG (white, 5700~6000K) : 280~450lm at 1A

Usually LEDs below BBL have better or hi cri

That’s true only at certain levels of CRI….once you get past 9895 LEDs tend to be close to the BBL.

more Full Spectrum Quality, top pic with High CRI

more Lumen Quantity, bottom pic with Low CRI

if you just want to know if the pan is boiling over, a green light would suffice, and would use less battery power

since I use rechargeable batteries, runtime is not a priority for me. My priority is Spectrum Quality. I use my flashlights to illuminate things with Red in them.

Things that Look Redder, taste better… LOL

As the colour management specialist in print industry I must say, that colour reproduction is key factor.
Mike

But not too much below, I’m not a fan of rosy tints.

Some people cant see colors or recognize them. Im sorry for them.

Me too, I’m thankful I can see all the colors.

Also, choosing a low CRI light over a high CRI light for walking around the woods at night is kind of like choosing to eat spaghetti with just a spoon. You may not realize it, but you’re just making more work for your eyes.

I dealt with Pantone color printing using high-end CYMK printing devices in my career.

People often didn't calibrate their (RGB) monitors; it's time consuming and the equipment is somewhat expensive. Then they whined about "the print doesn't match my monitor". Well... duh! This, under low CRI, cool white fluorescent lighting no less. Walk them outside into daylight & see how the colors on the same print change; the look on their faces was priceless.

I find low CRI/cool white acceptable for long distance throwers. I prefer warm-ish high CRI on my floody lights for closer use and will happily pay extra for it.

slmjim

Acceptable doesn’t mean good. Warmer light actually punches better through not so clean air.

Low cri and cool LEDs are useless even harmful. They should be restricted by law. Proper search lights should be warm for better fog and dust penetration

I’d say lower CRI reduces the contrast, it also flattens the perspective. There are no upsides of low CRI high CCT light, it should be used for decorational purposes only.

I know this is only anecdotal, but when I walk the wooded paths or the dirt and gravel roads around us I found that the lights with the higher CRI leds seemed to make discerning objects off in the dark easier. Plus the foliage appeared more realistic. Much of what is said about the subject of CRI centers around red, the R9. But I first noticed that the greens of the grasses, leafy planys as well as the evergreens were easier to differentiate with 90+ CRI.

Inside our home the woodwork, the wood doors and trim, the cabinetry, etc. all reveal their true colors under 90+ CRI lighting. I must admit that it takes more effort for me to discern the differences between my 90 CRI flashlights and the couple I have with 98+ Optisolis leds. But the difference is there, though not as important.

I don’t even like the lower CRI cold, flourescent lighting in the barn any more. The tractor was not the right (correct) color at night. :wink:
Most of those are now 80+ CRI led’s now. Cost can be a factor.

That may be one reason I find higher CRI lights better for walking trails at night.

Is there a “warm” competitor for an Osram CSLNM1.TG?