LEP + LED flashlight: Lumintop Thor Pro [discussion + review]

Thanks Neal! Good to see you here.

Neal, while you’re here do you think you could reply to me about the missing item from my last order? The titanium bezel that was not included in the package with all of the lenses (used the “additional $5 shipping fee” per your instructions). It’s been many weeks and I sent a few emails to the same address we had been using, no reply. I hate to start a Paypal claim and have been very patient. Thanks.

Some more photos from Neal:

It seems to be an evolved version of FENIX LR40R
It is wonderful that the center chip is LEP
I think the battery size should be 18650 because the body gets thicker.
I’m looking forward to the release, waiting for the official model announcement

I forgot about the LR40R. There’s a few other lights with a ring of LEDs around a more throwy one:

Fenix LR40R

Olight Marauder 2

Acebeam X10

Acebeam X70

LM Toolworks x PhotonX Grand Tala

I’m looking forward to the LEP+LED combo but I wonder if they’ll make a LED+LED version too.

Very interesting light but with 3 or 4 accus much to big for my hands and to heavy.
This Head with one 21700 would be cool.

The good thing about the LR40R is that flood LEDs and long-range LEDs can be lit simultaneously or independently, Marauder 2 could only select one side alone lighting The size is a little larger than X10, but I think that it is suitable as EDC

The LR40R is 4*18650 too, right? I think this Lumintop will be about the same size as the Fenix and the Marauder.

Should be able to have them on independently or together too.

I like the idea of a single 21700 version of this, though it’d probably have to be quite big to be effective and worthwhile.

I do wonder how watertight it will be, the USB ports look like they are open to the environment. No flaps etc…
But maybe thats because it’s a prototype? Can’t imagine them making this light not watertight

Wow!
8x xhp50?! That is a lot of potential lumen in flood!

If they get into the Anduril 2-train on this, I’m hooked!
A properitairy UI could break this light.

The prototype has arrived! Charging some button tops now... I'll share initial impressions and info in a bit and a more thorough review soon. Let me know if you have any specific questions or things to test.

Wow!

UI and type of flood LEDs is interesting to know. Button tops only? No adapter plate for flats?

The LEP, like a Thor 3 or like an antman?… :slight_smile:

I think I’ve worked out the UI. I’ve started a review with details on the second post LEP + LED flashlight: Lumintop Thor Pro [discussion + review] - #2 by dave1010

This one has XP-G3 LEDs but I’ve heard second hand that others may have XP-L or XHP50.2.

Yes to button tops only. There was no adaptor plate (like Convoy sell) in the box, though this is a pre-production prototype.

The LEP is somewhere between the Thor 3 and Ant man :-). I’ll take measurements later.

I’ve done some very quick and rough measurements. The XP-G3’s are hitting over 7000 lm and throw is around 500kcd (1400m). More details at the start of the thread.

The lens is glass!

The prototype is Lumintop’s own UI, which seems to work well. At least it’s not hold for off :slight_smile:

That’s what I thought too. You have to unscrew the tail cap to get to the ports, which are on the main body tube.

I’m not saying this is an ugly light per se, well maybe I am a little. But it does strike me as uninspired when compared to all the bolder and pretty slick looking bigger lights we’ve seen released lately. Seems interesting for sure, but the emitter options also seem to be uninspired considering they’re only looking to pump 7000 lumen. Not necessarily a huge fan of the LH351D’s or 219C, but I think those would be a great option for one of these. 4000k especially, regardless if there is a slight loss of output. Or maybe even the 219F Acebeam is using in the Rider RX.

I guess I’m just looking for ways to make this light more appealing, because right now it’s appealing to me, but not really.

To clarify, the 7000 lm was from 8A cells, so it may do more with high drain ones.

I should be getting some high drain cells early next week to test with.

I recorded 2 quick videos of the Lumintop Thor Pro:

I’ve also added a few more photos that Neal sent to the first post.

thank you dabe1010 Fantastic !! I’m looking forward to the release of the light.

Can we get some rough measurements? How wide is the bezel?

That seems to me to be a crucial/very interesting bit of info for a light like this. The whole point/advantage of an LEP is that you get the same throw with something like the 40mm bezel of the thor 2 as you get with the 72mm bezel of the Noctigon K1 W1.

So putting an LEP module in the middle of a floodlight should mean it’s able to be smaller than competitors like the Fenix LR40R and Olight Marauder 2, while also throwing MUCH further. The Fenix and Olight both have ~80mm bezels, and in my mind for this to be a truly neat competitor, it should have closer to a ~65mm bezel.

The XP-G3 is a bit of a weird choice. XP-L HI or HD would definitely be better. 8x XHP50.2 or 8x SFT-40 would be truly awesome, and could put up super compelling flood numbers along with that sweet 1400m of LEP throw.

Here’s what the prototype measures:

  • Head diameter 67.0mm
  • Body diameter 51.1mm
  • Length 157mm

Rough numbers for the optic diameters:

  • LED 15mm
  • LEP 26mm

Weights

  • Without cells 644g
  • With cells 830g