First off I want to say thanks to you guys for listening to community feedback. I know I was quite vocal in the other thread about it and I do value the extra time and effort it takes.
My ranking for options would be: #3: Considering that you have said the 14500 performance of the light will be affected with 14500, I do not think the extra compatibility would be worth it in that case.
#2: This would still be a good option if you were making multiple versions of it.
#1: I think having a higher priced light running Anduril 2.0 would be much preferrable to a simpler UI. Anduril 2.0 is very customisable and is the best flashlight UI on the market IMO. I’m sure most people here would pay more for a light that is equipped with Anduril 2.0
#4: I do not think built in charging is worth it in a light of this size (and it would increase cost and complexity to do it well).
Some other general thoughts: Driver: I don’t know how possible it is at this stage, but a driver with a regulated, flat output would be fantastic and would really elevate this light into a must have. From my experience owning an FWAA, an efficient driver is preferable in a light of this size. The FWAA is inefficient with its FET+1 7315 driver and it has poor battery life at any level above the regulated 350mAh.
Clip: I think that a very important consideration for lights of this size. So many manufacturers get this wrong and it can really compromise with how well the light is carried day to day. The clip that is present on the prototype seems like the same clip present on the SP10V3 and SC21. It isn’t a very good design and I think a lot of people would pay more for a one way – deep carry clip. Ill post an image of one modified by reddit user grzybek337.
Finish: The finish of the light looks great; would it be possible to have colourful anodising like the recent releases of the HD15?
AUX Lights: This is a minor point, but would an RGB LED be possible to source? I find them extremely useful on my Anduril 2.0 lights as they can be used to quickly see battery voltage at a glance. I know I am asking a lot, but I do think that having the ability to change them would help to elevate the WK10 above its competitors.
Finally, I want to say thank you again for listening to community feedback. It is rare to be able to speak to manufacturers like this and I think it’s a fantastic thing!
I third this. A nice, well regulated, efficient driver would really set this apart from the Lumintop FWAA it’s directly competing against. Even if Turbo output is reduced, having sustainable brightness due to an efficient driver would be a huge selling point. Perhaps this could be accomplished with a 3S MCPCB and a 9V Boost driver.
Deep carry clip, deep carry clip, deep carry clip. Please include a proper deep carry clip! The one on the current prototype is not deep carry. It needs to extent to the very bottom of the light.
There's lots of talk about the pocket clip and it's construction, functionality, and quality. I, personally do not use a pocket clip on any of my edc lights currently. BUT, with one this small, a quality, reversible clip is uneatable when clipped onto the bill of a hat. I LOVED my 4sevens knight for that reason. A small light clipped to a hat beats a huge headband all day!
Maybe a dumb question, but why a triple for a 14500 light?
Usually, you’d use a triple to cut the current an individual LED carries down to a third so it runs more efficiently. I’m not sure it’d make much of a difference with currents that 14500s can provide. 14500s are pretty anæmic, both in current and capacity, vs even a middle-quality 18650.
Also, the aperture in front is even smaller than that of an 18650 light, so the optics will be smaller overall, and the individual TIR lenses will also be smaller. Maybe a single LED with wider-angle TIR lens would provide a better beam?
Anyway, hope I don’t get dogpiled on, but I’m just asking.
I’m with Lightbringer. I think it’ll be an interesting light either way, but a single emitter probably would make more sense, especially if paired with a high efficiency driver. Nichia 519A anyone?
No press fit clip, yes fully captive ring clip.
No dual function S clip.
Yes body can be flipped so captive single direction clip allows use on a hat.
This is an excellent clip design, that can be flipped: .
note the clip only rests on the body… the clip does not need to be removed when changing to hat mode, just flip the whole body, leaving the clip installed.
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Some other general thoughts: Driver: I don’t know how possible it is at this stage, but a driver with a regulated, flat output would be fantastic and would really elevate this light into a must have. From my experience owning an FWAA, an efficient driver is preferable in a light of this size. The FWAA is inefficient with its FET+1 7315 driver and it has poor battery life at any level above the regulated 350mAh.
Clip: I think that a very important consideration for lights of this size. So many manufacturers get this wrong and it can really compromise with how well the light is carried day to day. The clip that is present on the prototype seems like the same clip present on the SP10V3 and SC21. It isn’t a very good design and I think a lot of people would pay more for a one way – deep carry clip. Ill post an image of one modified by reddit user grzybek337.
Finish: The finish of the light looks great; would it be possible to have colourful anodising like the recent releases of the HD15?
AUX Lights: This is a minor point, but would an RGB LED be possible to source? I find them extremely useful on my Anduril 2.0 lights as they can be used to quickly see battery voltage at a glance. I know I am asking a lot, but I do think that having the ability to change them would help to elevate the WK10 above its competitors.
Finally, I want to say thank you again for listening to community feedback. It is rare to be able to speak to manufacturers like this and I think it’s a fantastic thing!
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Thank you, I hope to achieve the expected sale price within $20, so if the AUX lamp is used, it will be a single color. If there are multiple colors, it will increase the head space, and the cost will also increase.I found out that you have the same idea about the clip, I will try to make it better
colourful anodising—definately yes, that is what WURKKOS would like to do
Excellent to hear about your reconsideration of the clip and the anodising colours. Understood about the Aux LED increasing the size of the head.
I think many enthusiasts would pay a higher price for a good, regulated driver with a stable light output. If you can, please look into how realistic that would be.
I understand you guys are trying to hit low price points with your lights, so once again, thank you for considering our feedback.
Musts for me:
14500 Compatibility (No need for standard AA or Eneloop), Anduril 2, Deep Carry Clip, NO BUILT IN CHARGING, NO AUX FOR AN EDC.
Wants:
Orange Anno. Please.
I’ll probably end up buying one, as long as it has a flavor of anduril. I’d also love to see something that is a bit less derivative of the Noctigon K series.
My (highly unresearched, technically lacking) suggestions would be to offer two versions of this light for around the same cost - one with triple emitters and single-color AUX, and one with a single emitter and multicolor user-selectable AUX lights - like a WK10T and WK10S. I saved the "Pro" for later revisions lol. A good bin of SST20 on the triple would keep costs low, and a 519A in the single emitter would probably balance out the cost with the multicolor AUX (I'm guessing hard here btw) and solve the space issue. I'm not sure if a driver for three SST20s can be used for a single 519A, but costs could also be saved there if that was possible. So the only parts that are not shared are just the optics/LED/mcpcb, which would make assembly simpler and costs lower (discounting the fact that there are two versions now lol!). After all this daydreaming I'm ready to buy a couple of these!
And an efficient driver would really be a bonus!
If these fly off the shelf, then offer a basic version with no Anduril and AA compatibility. AUX would still be cool but since the driver's being redesigned for a basic UI then maybe just link it to battery voltage to keep in line with the WK10 design and make it a differentiating factor to other manufacturers. Oh I completely forgot about Ha....
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