thanks for the review

I don’t understand the chart. Did you start with turbo and the lights ramps down after a minute? Why would a runtime chart have a zigzag like that?
Looks more like a lumens/brightness chart and the zigzag is the ATR doing its thing.

Wurkkos wrote:

thanks for the review :GLASSES:

Mine didn't come with a manual. I see the website shows a picture of one. Can you make the manual available for dowload?

Btw, even though the size is a bit too long, shaky to tailstand, I am glad I bought one - nice LED, nice beam profile, nice looking light. The purple ano sparkles 

Thanks for the review!

ATR regulation needs some PID…

Tom E wrote:

Wurkkos wrote:

thanks for the review

Mine didn’t come with a manual. I see the website shows a picture of one. Can you make the manual available for dowload?

Btw, even though the size is a bit too long, shaky to tailstand, I am glad I bought one – nice LED, nice beam profile, nice looking light. The purple ano sparkles 

Wurkkos wrote:

Where i can update a manual for a download, maybe someone could help?

I like the tint of my FC12. Pure white with no green and the color is maintained even in the low levels.

 Purple ano is perfect.. i need to read the manual - can you only turn it on with rear switch? if so this is annoying. Also, it is much longer than i thought. the beam and light are very nice, but i bought this for the wife (even though i love the purple ano and WOULD edc it..) but she is not a fan because it is too large for her to carry around during times she might actually carry around a flashlight (hiking, camping, night time outdoor events).. so maybe ill take it on but i prob wont use it, or she will keep it and use it once a year.. just a little disappointing.. my own fault i bought it "on the spot" and ASSUMED it would be sc31- sized.. i should know better than to not look up the dimensions of lights i've never owned.

Try this:

But of course you have to twist the tailcap to turn the light off. My solution is a driver swap. It will be getting a gchart 1616 MCU driver, 20 mm, losing the charging though, but running the very latest Anduril 2. I'll configure A2 to support the tactical tail switch (power switch comes on at last used level), so can be used with either the tail switch or not. If you turn it off at the side switch, the switch LED still stays on (using the green switch LED, not RED).

They used a lot of glue, completely covering the outer ring of the driver and shelf it sits on. Had to use a hammer and solder pick to tap it loose, no damage accept the vertical board came loose from the round horizontal board.

Traced out the switch. They used all red wires with Chinese labeling. I'm replacing them with color coded 30 AWG.

Awesome Tom!!

Where can i get the Gchart driver?? Can i buy one somewhere? 

Dude, Gchart really is the man! that guy does some fantastic things! And so do you!, because you're showing us this mod! haha.

And is that just a regular sc31 pro ( or similar) tail cap? i think i saw those on Aliexpress for like $2 ? is that the one? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001291432719.html?spm=a2g0o.cart.0.0.51833c00UXdjzQ&mp=1

Thanks again Tom

The gchart driver - I got one (think he does too) on OSHPark. Don't think he's selling them and I'm not, so... So you can buy the board and parts and reflow. But for me, the jury is still out - still trying to get it working. Having a couple of problems, mainly the MCU is difficult for me to reflow, others are doing better using a stencil, etc.

That's a SC31B tailcap, not a SC31 Pro, but they are interchangeable (just tried it). so Yes - that tailcap should work, as well as a SC31 Pro tailcap. Can't actually test right now because my FC12 is dis-assembled.

The Pro tailcap has a lanyard hole so it's slightly longer. However a FC12 tailcap can't thread on a SC31B or SC31 Pro.

Got ya. Thanks Tom 

I’d be so happy with this light if it did away with the rear switch and could be turned on/off with the side switch. Fumbling around with 2 switches just ruins it for me which is a shame because I really like the beam performance, color style etc.

Actually any 20 mm driver for e-switch would do. I got FET+1's that can run Anduril 2 in 20 mm sizes.

CR888 wrote:

I’d be so happy with this light if it did away with the rear switch and could be turned on/off with the side switch. Fumbling around with 2 switches just ruins it for me which is a shame because I really like the beam performance, color style etc.

There has been an allusion to an FC11 2.0 in the works.

Love the sft40, good hotspot and spill.
Great light overall.
Fix 2 things:
Get rid of the useless sideswitch and make it the same length as a S2 with ramping, all at the tail switch!
Keep it simple.

Tom E wrote:

Actually any 20 mm driver for e-switch would do. I got FET+1’s that can run Anduril 2 in 20 mm sizes.

Not possible to just reflash original MCU?

dthrckt wrote:

Tom E wrote:

Actually any 20 mm driver for e-switch would do. I got FET+1's that can run Anduril 2 in 20 mm sizes.

Not possible to just reflash original MCU?

Not for me or anyone else I'm aware of. Typically they use PIC MCU's, but who knows - not worth reverse engineering, then again, I'm not too good at that. Others here know hardware wayy better than me.

Tom E wrote:

dthrckt wrote:

Tom E wrote:

Actually any 20 mm driver for e-switch would do. I got FET+1’s that can run Anduril 2 in 20 mm sizes.

Not possible to just reflash original MCU?

Not for me or anyone else I’m aware of. Typically they use PIC MCU’s, but who knows – not worth reverse engineering, then again, I’m not too good at that. Others here know hardware wayy better than me.

CR888 wrote:

I’d be so happy with this light if it did away with the rear switch and could be turned on/off with the side switch. Fumbling around with 2 switches just ruins it for me which is a shame because I really like the beam performance, color style etc.

https://imgur.com/a/18WzNHo

I just got them today and a few observations.

The body is 9.5/10, there are micro blemishes from machining. It’s shiny and it’s looks great. The clip is already installed which means it will most likely leave a mark if you want to adjust the clip. There are two holes at the tail that visually seems to fit the S2+ clip. The S2+ magnet is slightly larger than the hole. The serial number is the same so it’s an extra unnecessary marking on the head. The balance is right at the middle. Without the clip, the grove can be used as cigar grip.

It’s definitely not an EDC. It’s a more substantial FC11. The head and body is larger in diameter, the reflector is deeper than both S2+ and FC11. The momentary tail switch fun and it’s much faster to set the brightness than Anduril. Changing brightness with the S2+ has always been clumsy for me.m as I have to change my hand position to reach the button. In addition, having a dedicated rear on/off means I won’t have trouble finding the on button in darkness.

This is overall a very good beginner flashlight. You get to try many features that’s not found in the Convoy S2+. You have the battery and charge built in so you are ready to go. It’s a flashlight I would gift away.

Seeing that this design might be going away I think it’s worth picking one up before they are discontinued.

Just fine? Didn't need some pressure? Just tried it again and it started to feel like it was going to grind - didn't want to strip the anodizing off the threads.

For the SC31 Pro, it would mean you can't do a mechanical lockout just by loosening the tail. Other than that, it's not just the stripping but the damage on the threads - if it was smooth before, maybe not now? Not sure but usually if I feel some unexpected resistance, I'll stop. Guess that's from past bad experiences with threading, but on cheaper lights mostly.

FC12 is great light.

Wurkkos wrote:

thanks for the review

why are your eu stores empty on amazon ??