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That's about two to three times as many tabs as I usually have open.

hahaha yes Iā€™m the tab king, lots of cross referencing and unfinished reading also some maybe-purchases happeningā€¦ā€¦ which makes it easier on a 49ā€™ screen - actually I mostly split viewing into 2, watch pay-tv on half and have my million tab browser on the other half.

Sorry for the ramble but I am quite proud of this light and every time I bring it out, most people say WOW! thatā€™s stupidly bright then why do you need such a bright? (me slapping my head) So you guys are the only people that get it.

Yes the Xled light is a beast, I bought the very first light with this amount of power from the company that makes them (not cheap) They were using a different less powerful led (canā€™t remember) so I suggested they use the HXP70.2 - and they did! they said they could make it go up to maybe 100,000 lumens, I choose 50,000 lumens because I wanted efficiency and runtime without too much heat, rather than shear output.

It has a tripod mount for an area light (which I wanted) the optics that they used has a mix of throw and flood but as they stick out the front, they shine backwards in your face hence the 200ā€™ beam - I asked if they could make a shroud to cover the sides to stop side glare, they said they would make me one but it never happened so I made my own by bending a strip of alu and gaff taped it on to try - havenā€™t done anymore as it protects the optics and stops side glare and it just works.

I bought it in 2015 - by selling a kidney on ebay :0)
Iā€™d like to get it updated to their new throw optic and SBT90.2 but I only have one kidney left - Hmm I do have 2 lungsā€¦. If anyone is interested I think they are in the Netherlands and this is their website

Anyway the SN90.1 holds itā€™s own for itā€™s size, itā€™s a comfortable to hold size, just when you think these leds arenā€™t getting any brighterā€¦.boom! they do - maybe not so much brighter but the lux/intensity they are doing is leaping ahead.

Great light!!! Unlike a soda can type of light, it fits in my hand nicely, is well balanced, and has a simple UI. Very impressive flood with a little bit of a throw too.

Thanks again Freeme!!!

Do you plan on reviewing it?

Yes

LVP Update!

Neal sent me his ā€œspecial batteriesā€ which appear to be Lishen 21700 HPā€™s with a brass button soldered to the flat top. After more testing with those cells and more P42Aā€™s, Iā€™ve determined that my sample DOES have LVP and it works reliably, leaving the cells at ~2.8V after shutoff.

The thing that killed my first batch is parasitic drain after LVP shutoff. I measured cell voltage after LVP shutoff at about 2.8V, then turned the light back ā€œonā€ for a little over an hour. When I checked cell voltage again, the cells had dropped by ~0.2V each!

When I did my initial runtime test, it was overnight. The light was on for an hour or so but then shut off (due to LVP, apparently) but when I checked voltage in the morning the cells were down near 1.5V! Looks like parasitic drain after LVP shutoff is the culprit.

Wow that seems like some pretty significant parasitic drain.

Indeed. I tried measuring it and ogt 650 microamps. Thatā€™s not very high and I donā€™t think it should drain the cells that fast, but the voltage difference doesnā€™t lie.

How do the 21700HPā€™s compare to the P42Aā€™s in terms of max lumens?

At 2.8v the amount of energy left in the cells in very minimal so even a small current drain will make the voltage drop a fair bit.

I have not tested extensively but one quick test indicated similar max lumens. I will have more details in my full review.

Thanks, looking forward to your review!

I saw this flashlight on TB too late, about 2 weeks after it sold out there. This light is super value for those just after lumens and nothing else.

Just managed to snatch 3 pcs of LS 2170HP (3000mAh) and LS 2170LA (4000mAh) and 2 of his 4-bay 2A per bay quick chargers. Darn cheap, the batts are only 15 rmb and charger 30rmb each. Shipping usd 6 to my country (just nice 1.00kg, if it were 1.01kg iā€™d have to pay 0.5kg usd 3 more)
Batts are for my 2 Jinheng JKK76s.

Just for everyoneā€™s info, NW Chaos hit like 3 seconds above 25kā€¦ā€¦but that might be due to several factors as well. eg the best of his lot of Lishen 2170HP etc.

Video inside
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.0.0.7d782e8dX0DHSj&id=671140993338&\_u=s1u0hcibdef5

Anyway NW sells 2 types of LS 2170 HP 3000mAh. One ver is for this Chaos, the top has a brass disc soldered on. The other version is normal flat top, stock.
I got the stock version for my JKK76 coz its battery carrier already has a disc built in, so would easier to fit in (esp since i am contemplating to squeeze a few bits of rolled up aluminum foil to try to create a bit of bypass, so the springs are not gonna compress as much with those bits in, coz the light is claimed to be DD in turbo).

I do hope the ones i get from NW are indeed 7-8 mohms. Some other TB sellersā€™ Lishen HP cells are doing 13-16 mohms from what i see in the china TB user reviews in the item listing, while some are 7-8 mohms.
If i remember correctly, Samsung 50G is doing around 15 mohms, soā€¦ā€¦ (i use 50Gs in my Amutorch DM70 quad XHP 70.2, good for 23k thereabouts as tested on the meter)

Got one on the way, with cells.

Thank you Freeme :disguised_face:

Got mine today. First impressions.

- Well made, body and knurling is perfect.

- Wow lots of lube on the threads, like enough for 5 flashlights.

- Small dent in the bezel due to sub par packaging, but you can hardly see it.

- Again due to improper packaging, the battery close to the head had its positive totally crushed in, it still works but Iā€™m sure the contact is not great.

- The batteries were sitting at like 2.8v when I received it so yeah there is some parasitic drain. They seem to be taking a charge.

- The switch is OVERLY sensitive, very hard to do a double tap without turning the light off.

- Very bright, any complaint you could have just goes away when you hit the turbo.

I got mine its good overall with a few quirks

  • The battery tube is small, the Sofirn 21700 cells are very tight and my battery tube has a tight spot in the middle where the cells get stuck.
  • Switch is soft and easy to activate once the light is on, these are the same switches used on the L6 so it should feel similar but its the design of the tail cap. Switch is to far back a new washer will fix this i think?
  • My lens came with some greasy oily finger prints on it, they where hard to clean lol
  • Not really a quirk its expected but it gets really hot quickly, to the point where it could be dangerous so donā€™t throw the light in bag unless the tail cap is undone.

Mine too! The cells Neal sells are a super tight fit. Really satisfying, but there is that tight spot in the middle. I have to open mine from the middle of the tube to get the batteries out as a result.

Is yours a reverse or forward clicky? Sounds like a forward clicky from your description. If so, I want to trade! Haha

Does yours have anodized threads on the tail? Mineā€™s threads are all unanodized so nothing short of removing the batteries will lock it out.

Should be unanodized.

https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z09.2.0.0.614b2e8dGujoNr&id=671140993338&\_u=21u0hcib6b54

Nah its a forward clikcy but it looks the same as the Convoy model, no anodizing on the tail threads i just undo it till the battery doesnā€™t make contact with the tail cap.