ACEBEAM New X75 80,000Lumens Brightest PD Power Bank Flashlight

Excellent for users who don’t want to fuss with buying individual cells though. No different to buying most mobile phones these days with a built-in battery.

Sorry readers, this discussion went a bit sideways from here on. I should have just stopped responding. Plain and simple, some people don’t mind a propriety battery pack and some people hate them, like Raccoon City…lol

That's great for you, Funtastic.

Buy every flashlight with a proprietary battery that you can find.

As for me, I'm not touching any of them with a ten foot pole if I can help it, except for maybe keychain flashlights.

They're extremely expensive to replace.

They do make flashlight companies a boatload of money, though.

Oh, and my cell phone has a very inexpensive battery, thank you very much.

I'll be avoiding cell phones with extremely expensive batteries as well.

I'll try to spend my money wisely.

You can waste your money all that you want.

(And I thought the recent Beavis and Butt-head movie was really stupid.)

Never did I say I was a fan of a propriety pack. i simply said that they're great for some users....I know for a lot of people who aren't enthusiasts, they'd be more interested where they don't have to worry, just buy another pack and they're away.

Same with anyone who has a drone, you can't just go get any battery and chuck it in. My DJI drone costs me roughly $300 nzd for a battery and I'm happy with that, it's just one of those things...

It isn’t the battery that’s often expensive, it’s the labor.

Everything is heading to electric powered, soon you won’t be able to avoid buying a car that doesn’t use a propriety pack lol

I replaced my cell phone battery all by myself.

Total labor cost: $0

I swear, defending proprietary batteries on budgetlightforum doesn't make any sense.

Wow mate, can we keep this friendly? No need to start calling me stupid. You should well and truly know the rules of this forum by now…

Dude, you're defending proprietary batteries on budgetlightforum (and this isn't your first time doing that.)

Don't you see the paradox there?

And I didn't call you stupid.

I was talking about your actions.

There is a big difference.

Have a good night mate. It’s a forum, we all have an opinion…sucks to think that someone gets attacked for sharing one that another doesn’t agree with

Once again, you didn't get attacked.

But, good night to you as well.

Not exactly the most friendly approach.

Just to end I would like to be clear that all I’m saying is that some people like a built in pack, that’s all. If I have the choice, I avoid them. For my new DJI RSC2 gimbal I just purchased, it has a built in battery which is not amazing, but that’s one of the reasons I have a $300 kweld spot welder, so I can replace it myself, if needed.

Riddle me this:

Why would you repeatedly defend proprietary batteries on budgetlightforum if, when you have a choice, you avoid them?

That doesn't make any sense.

I have an online business selling flashlights and you wouldn’t believe how many muggles love to not worry about batteries. They’re happy to buy another pack and away they go. LED Lenser are New Zealand’s number one brand and most use a propriety pack, yet they’re always recommended despite this.

Yeah, you don't have to "worry about batteries" until you have to replace them for an arm and a leg.

This is budgetlightforum where you are defending proprietary batteries--not your online business.

Do you still not see the paradox?

but it requires you to have the skills. Same is true for the pack. Its more involved than swapping a cellphone battery, but it is as doable if you got the skills and tools.

The common muggle will neither replace his cellphone battery nor the cells in a pack like this one.

Replacing the battery in my cell phone was super easy and required no special skills.

There are cell phones out there with inexpensive batteries that are super easy to replace.

And there are tons of flashlights that have super easy to replace batteries that are inexpensive as well.

I would bet that most people on BLF avoid proprietary battery packs like the Covid.

Not many informed consumers want to pay an arm and a leg when their proprietary battery pack fails.

At Raccoon city…a Present from my morning hike the other day.

There were four of them. You can see all four of them in the last photo.

Two of them with their back towards me.

No propriety battery pack lights for me

I’m not buying any light with a battery pack. The battery pack is the first thing that breaks and wears out. Also I use the same set of batteries in multiple lights, why buy new batteries with every light?

That’s all fine and dandy. Raccoon missed my point.

I wasn’t basing my thoughts on users on the forum, but more as a whole for anyone. It’s a forum after all, to discuss and share different things.

If I had the option I would go for user replaceable cells for sure, but if I really wanted X model and there wasn’t another option, I would still buy it.